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    • josh330
      josh330 @AWCthreads last edited by

      We were looking at the Magento Community Edition, although I know we'll still have development costs.

      The recommendation I've been given was to stay away from all hosted cart solutions: Volusion, Bigcommerce, 3dCart, Shopify, etc.

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      • AWCthreads
        AWCthreads last edited by

        Why are they giving you that suggestion?  What is their reasoning?

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        • DennisSeymour
          DennisSeymour @josh330 last edited by

          When we handle big sites like this, there are a lot of possible problems that we face, some of which are

          • the traditional ecommerce problem of "unique content" - maybe generic content or copied from a supplier (not saying you are doing this, Im just putting it out there)
          • another traditional problem with category pages and it's contents

          These 2 could affect rankings. Honestly, 404's dont matter much for us unless it's a vital part of the site, not on any pages of the site or if it had a lot of links pointing to it previously

          if it's worthless, we just let them die, so GWT can stop bugging us with it by next year lol.

          The 301 is actually the first thing that could be blamed as it might not be able to pass the same juice as it could before all the algo updates. You could try restoring the old site on a new CMS that you choose and run this side by side but it might be too much trouble.

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          • josh330
            josh330 @AWCthreads last edited by

            The reasoning, as I understand it, is that the hosted solutions will never give you complete control over coding.

            Their input was this: You are going to want to stay away from hosted solutions if you want to have full control over your site and experience. So we would recommend against going with something like this, for instance.

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            • jesse-landry
              jesse-landry last edited by

              Have you looked into OpenCart? I don't have a ton of experience with e-com sites but I've heard good things about this from developer standpoints. It's claim to fame is being open source, anyway...

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              • AWCthreads
                AWCthreads last edited by

                Do you believe your site requires complete access to the template?

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                • josh330
                  josh330 @DennisSeymour last edited by

                  Thanks Dennis.  Our SEO found quite a few pages that had good ranking that are now returning 404s. Is that what you mean by the the 301 being to blame?

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                  • josh330
                    josh330 @AWCthreads last edited by

                    Thanks for the response.  I'm only going off some of the things we were told to implement that we can't because that code is off limits. Can't implement canonical tags on home page, can't get rid of the https versions of all pages (home page, product pages, etc), can't put the blog on the root domain, etc.  It sounded like a big deal to me, but SEO and coding is not what I do, so I really wouldn't know any better.

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                    • josh330
                      josh330 @jesse-landry last edited by

                      I have not. I will mention that to our developer and see if she's heard of it.

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                      • DennisSeymour
                        DennisSeymour @josh330 last edited by

                        Definitely a possible reason as you are already losing traffic from it already. Something you should look at ASAP. Those pages should be redirecting to the correct, new pages so I'm wondering why they werent properly 301'ed. Was the 301 service only sending your previous homepage to the new homepage and not per page? (Or even old pages to the new homepage)

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                        • AWCthreads
                          AWCthreads last edited by

                          Were you ranking well prior to the move?

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                          • AWCthreads
                            AWCthreads last edited by

                            Also, is your developer and SEO the same?

                            Just curious if you were getting input from both angles or the same direction.

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                            • josh330
                              josh330 @AWCthreads last edited by

                              Yes, we were. Page 1, between position 3 and 7 on our main niche keywords.

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                              • josh330
                                josh330 @AWCthreads last edited by

                                Our developer and SEO are different folks and my relationship with each of them is completely independent from the other.  Great question though.

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                                • AWCthreads
                                  AWCthreads @josh330 last edited by

                                  Interesting. So you were ranking well on a hosted platform.

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                                  • josh330
                                    josh330 @AWCthreads last edited by

                                    You are absolutely correct.  A different platform, but a hosted one nonetheless.

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                                    • josh330
                                      josh330 @AWCthreads last edited by

                                      You can see why I'm so confused!

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                                      • AWCthreads
                                        AWCthreads @josh330 last edited by

                                        You may be in need of a second opinion.

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                                        • AWCthreads
                                          AWCthreads @AWCthreads last edited by

                                          Dennis is giving you a good one and I can make a recommendation for your SEO services if you wanna pm me.

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                                          • josh330
                                            josh330 @DennisSeymour last edited by

                                            It was supposed to be every page and I was charged $600+ just for the redirecting part of the process separate and part from the design.

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