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    HELP - Configuration Killing Me, Dying on Google, About To Give Up

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    • Marcus_Miller
      Marcus_Miller last edited by

      Hey Patrick

      Okay, tricky one as it's not really clear what the problem is here but it feels like you have created some kind of duplicate content problem when shifting all of your sites over to WPMU.

      Some questions:

      1. What are the other sites?
      2. Were any of the other sites affected?

      It's tough to give you a perfect answer without some further analysis but I suspect a few things here.

      1. You have created a duplicate site over at: <cite>smartwatch.smartfamily.wpengine.com/top-5-smart-watches-2013/</cite>‎ (on a much more established domain)
      2. You have lots of internal duplication on the site

      A few things you can do

      1. Redirect the smartwatch.smartfamily.wpengine.com site to your main site (seems you have done this)
      2. Tidy up the internal duplication (too many categories and tags likely)

      It would be interesting to get some insight into all the 301's you have implemented here as well and really I would recommend an audit of the site just to make sure you have no underlying and not immediately obvious problems. There are a some solid tutorials on SEO audits on this very site so if you want to keep it in house at least find a structured audit process and follow it through (you will likely find other optimisations so it will be a worthwhile process).

      Long before Panda and Penguin I have seen sites slapped for duplication and lose 90% of traffic. I have seen this with accidental multiple domains and due to aggressively stolen content and other seemingly innocent reasons.

      Ultimately, it seems innocent and like some kind of technical gotcha so certainly, I would not give up here.

      Some tasks you could perform:

      • Set up a moz campaign and review any issues
      • Run copyscape and check for duplicate content and resolve
      • Do some manual duplicate content queries to spot other domains that may have your content due to misconfiguration in WPEngine
      • Claim all domains and tidy them up in webmaster tools
      • Wait

      Ultimately, just tighten everything up and give it some time and everything should bounce back. Beyond that, maybe consider getting a pro to do a quick audit to check things over for you and advise on the best (quickest) course of action.

      Hope that helps
      Marcus

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      • Francisco_Meza
        Francisco_Meza last edited by

        "I decided to streamline my site,"

        How do you mean that? Did you use a plug-in or some type of software? If I were to do that (condensing websites into one), I would have gone old school style and do it via mysql DB into the mainsite's DB. Then 301 from one website to the mainsite your are trying to promote. To do this, I would probably hire a programmer to help.

        My question is "how" did you streamline?

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        • AlanMosley
          AlanMosley last edited by

          Moving to wordpress is not a good move, CMS is good for people who need to get a site up quick and don't have the skills or the money to get a be-spoke website, but it is riddled with crawling problems.

          I assume if you moved to WP your urls have changed? if so you can expect to lose ranking.

          I would go back to what you had before for a start, then have a rethink.

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          • Francisco_Meza
            Francisco_Meza @AlanMosley last edited by

            I think WP is fine in most cases. I try to use as little plugin as possible. One I do use is Yoast's WP SEO plugin.

            I did about 3 site migrations last month from HTML to WP and my rankings were not affected. I 301's from .html to trailing slash URLs and everything was fine.

            Alan, honest question here. If WP isn't good, what would you recommend?

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            • AlanMosley
              AlanMosley last edited by

              I suggest to role your own.

              My philosophy these days is make sure your site crawls perfectly, use html5 and schema.org to tell the search engine what your site is about. Keep code clean from any script or css, no redirects or noindexing.

              It is hard to gain the system by links these days, good content described semantically and clearly to the search engine seems to work well.

              It is hard to describe your content using html5 and schema.org using CMS.

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              • Humanovation
                Humanovation @Marcus_Miller last edited by

                Marcus:

                Thank you SOOOOO much for your amazing response.  Everything you said sounds completely logical to me.  I have set up a Moz Campaign pursuant to your suggestion and will start figuring out how to use it properly.  In addition, I will begin working on the duplicate content issue.  I had put 301s in place for the other site, but it still shows up on Google.

                Again, thanks so much ... I am going to reread your response a couple of more times to make sure that I don't miss a thing.

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                • Humanovation
                  Humanovation @Francisco_Meza last edited by

                  I streamlined the categories and tags.  For example, I had a category named Sony ... I also had a tag named Sony and a tag named Sony Smartwatch.  I would condense all three into a single tag named Sony Smartwatch and delete the other two (placing appropriate 301 redirects as I deleted).  I had hundreds of tags and categories like that so I streamlined everything from several hundred categories and tags into less than 100 total.  I did this hoping to address my obvious internal duplicates problem and increase my ranking even further.  However, immediately after I streamlined my categories and tags, my ranking plummeted.  I still think that it was a good idea, I just got hit with some other issues at the same time which is making it difficult to pinpoint the cause of my dramatic drop.

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                  • Humanovation
                    Humanovation @AlanMosley last edited by

                    Well, I like wordpress ... I just need to get better at implementing it appropriately and that is what I am trying to learn here.  If a url was changed, i put in the required 301s.  And you are correct, I do not have the skills or money to build a site from scratch ... maybe some day 😉

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                    • Humanovation
                      Humanovation @AlanMosley last edited by

                      Yes ... I need to get better at schema implementation.  Reading up on that now 😉

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                      • Marcus_Miller
                        Marcus_Miller @Humanovation last edited by

                        Hey Patrick

                        Glad it helped. Ask any more questions here and I will get an email and pop by if I can help.

                        Cheers

                        Marcus

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