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    • LukeHutchinson
      LukeHutchinson @EGOL last edited by

      Agreed. .info does look fairly spammy. Exact match .info looks even more spammy.

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      • PrizeWize
        PrizeWize @EGOL last edited by

        Thanks for your thoughts, I hadn't thought about how spammy .info might actually come across. Unfortunately the .com's and .nl's are gone for these keywords.

        It's quite a competitive market with a lot of EMD.org .net .com and .info's already taken. I will follow up on your advice and take another close look at still available .com/.nl domains with hyphens in them.

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        • PrizeWize
          PrizeWize @LukeHutchinson last edited by

          Hi Luke,

          I normally visit SeoMoz by typing in 'se' in my browser, after which it fills in the rest of the url (www.seomoz.org) and i press enter.

          I had totally forgotten that its SeoMoz.org haha, what a great example.

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          • PrizeWize
            PrizeWize @activitysuper last edited by

            I havent tried ranking myself with a .org domain before, but i have seen a bunch of them rank well for very competitive queries and  with horrible content :(.

            At www.google.nl search for autoverzekeringen (car insurances) and  in the top 2/3 should rank www.autoverzekeringen.org (awefull site)

            Another example is (on Google nl)  the querie zorgverzekering (health insurance) and in the top 2/3 should be www.zorgverzekering.org

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            • LukeHutchinson
              LukeHutchinson @PrizeWize last edited by

              If you Google around or search the SEOmoz site you will find the quote I'm talking about that Rand mentioned about using .org on SEOmoz. The main justification for SEOmoz would be the links that they built up I would imagine.

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              • PrizeWize
                PrizeWize @stukerr last edited by

                Hi Stuart,

                Nice outfit you are wearing in your avatar pic haha ;).

                And thanks for your input, i definitely get where you are comming from with brand.com and good content, but we already have a site where we are working on a brand (prizewize.com .nl), but we also want to expand using white labels. This way we increase our visibility in the Serps and have different ways of targetting our audience (have one site more formal than the other etc.).

                Also in the Netherlands it seems a lot o EMD's are still doing well. I guess Google updates come arrive here 6 to 18 months later than in the US (which can be a good thing). But to be clear the EMD.org i'm talking about will have sollid unqiue content together with our own webservice (price compare tool).

                Other emd's we have rank well and  they get a lot of 'natural links' with exactkeyword.nl (.com/.net/.info/.org). So it's way easier creating theme relaterd links with exact match anchor text's for an EMD than a non emd. One of the major reasons for starting another emd and not a brand.

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                • PrizeWize
                  PrizeWize @stukerr last edited by

                  I don't know why, but im often making dubbel posts. I've editted this dubbel post and removed the dubplicate content hehe

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                  • PrizeWize
                    PrizeWize @PrizeWize last edited by

                    when searching for '.org' within SeoMoz i found the following 2 articles that mention .org domains.

                    http://www.seomoz.org/blog/how-to-choose-the-right-domain-name  http://www.seomoz.org/blog/bing-vs-google-prominence-of-ranking-elements

                    Any chance you meant one of these?

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                    • LukeHutchinson
                      LukeHutchinson @PrizeWize last edited by

                      Nope. I can't seem to find it but he basically talked about how SEOmoz was originally setup as nonprofit and when they changed they kept the .org and 301d the .com. I've tried searching a variety of keywords related to what I can remember but just can't seem to find it.

                      Hopefully if Rand sees this he can weigh in on what I'm quoting. He did 100% say it though and why I can't find it is beyond me.

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                      • EGOL
                        EGOL @PrizeWize last edited by

                        If you see a good domain that is not being used by a viable company don't hesitate to write to the registrant to see if you can buy it.

                        This frequently works and you might get a perfect domain for $500 to a few thousand.

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                        • LukeHutchinson
                          LukeHutchinson @PrizeWize last edited by

                          To be honest, I would be more likely to click a branded domain over the EMD. From what you have said there is numerous EMD domains on the first page meaning it is likely that users will ignore and think of them as spammy. I'm not basing this on any facts so don't quote me on it or anything but I am speaking from my own experience and how I know my friends and family think.

                          Thanks.

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