The Moz Q&A Forum

    • Forum
    • Questions
    • My Q&A
    • Users
    • Ask the Community

    Welcome to the Q&A Forum

    Browse the forum for helpful insights and fresh discussions about all things SEO.

    1. SEO and Digital Marketing Q&A Forum
    2. Categories
    3. White Hat / Black Hat SEO
    4. Google Panelizes to much SEO

    Google Panelizes to much SEO

    White Hat / Black Hat SEO
    10 4 597
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as question
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • JarnoNijzing
      JarnoNijzing last edited by

      I just read this interesting article about a new Google Penalty that will be up in the next upcoming weeks/months about Google making changes to the algorithm.

      The penalty will be targeted towards websites that are over optimized or over seo'ed. What do you think about this? Is this a good thing or is this not a good thing for us as SEO marketeers?

      here's the link: SEL.com/to-much-seo

      I'm really curious as to your point of views.

      regards

      Jarno

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • Aran_Smithson
        Aran_Smithson last edited by

        Don't quote me on this but Google has been heading this way for quite some time, has it not?

        Remember keyword stuffing, content farms, dodgy link practices?

        As long as we build websites that

        1. Function correctly
        2. Have good unique content
        3. Are easy to use

        We are on the right track and have little to worry about.

        I'll carry on with my current strategy of putting the effort into content and doing my damnest to get people to notice it and perhaps give me a link, +1, tweet, like or bookmark.

        JarnoNijzing 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • JarnoNijzing
          JarnoNijzing @Aran_Smithson last edited by

          Aran,

          i totally agree with you on the points you made but since Google is letting out more and more information about wanting to level the SEO market I was very curious as to what other SEO's think about this.

          I can image that Google is going to make a point out of a lot of things but there are some factors that SEO's use that can be an issue. That is what i can imagine about it anyway.

          thanks for the reply

          Aran_Smithson JarnoNijzing 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • Aran_Smithson
            Aran_Smithson @JarnoNijzing last edited by

            Hi Jarno,

            You Say "there are some factors that SEO's use that can be an issue", what do you image these could be?

            Cheers

            Aran

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • JarnoNijzing
              JarnoNijzing @JarnoNijzing last edited by

              Aran,

              for example  it could mean the number of times the keyword is displayed in a page. I might think i use it naturally but Google might decide otherwise..

              on the article of searchengineland some of the feedbacks enroll external linking to your site. By buying links to your competitors your might invoke them as harmful websites. I don't think Google is stupid but it could be influential.

              Off course it goes without saying that the only way we are going to find out what it entails it buy waiting for it and then testing. I agree with your white-hat theory. Keep using white-hat and you should always be fine.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
              • DanHill
                DanHill last edited by

                I'd like to see a lot less weight being put into keyword matched domains for a start..

                Aran_Smithson My-Favourite-Holiday-Cottages JarnoNijzing 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 2
                • Aran_Smithson
                  Aran_Smithson @DanHill last edited by

                  Agreed.

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • My-Favourite-Holiday-Cottages
                    My-Favourite-Holiday-Cottages @DanHill last edited by

                    Speaking from a users perspective, thats the one I would like to see changed the most myself.

                    So meny times there is some exact match keyword domain with poor content ranking high on the first page on seemingly the weight of that factor alone.

                    If the changes are along those lines it will make SEO 'easyer' unless you were using such technicques yourself.

                    My other guess is that they're going to improve their 'best guesses' for those pages without semanticaly correct html e.t.c. That would 'even the playing feild' but still would favour optimised content.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • JarnoNijzing
                      JarnoNijzing @DanHill last edited by

                      Daniel,

                      though i can imagine your thinking in this i do not agree with you. One of our main websites is focused on camping at the farmer (in dutch it's like: kamperen bij de boer) and we have a domain name that is similar to that. So our website:

                      www.kamperen-bij-de-boer.com is build for user but it does use the exact keyword people are looking. If Google changes the algorithm to penalize websites that use keyword "stuffed" domains then my website, build for users, would be demoted. That's not fair is it?

                      I do agree with you however in some cases. There are a lot off websites that keyword stuff the domain or use - to separate domain names from competitors. So in some cases i totally agree with you but there are still some websites that have a domain name that is the main keyword. What would happen to them?

                      DanHill 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote -1
                      • DanHill
                        DanHill @JarnoNijzing last edited by

                        I'm not saying that a keyword matched domain should receive a penalty, I'm saying that it should be a more neutral ground when it comes to ranking factors.

                        If your site happens to have a keyword matched domain but has great content and value for a visitor then it should rightly rank higher for relevant queries - and if they changed the weighting on the matched domains then it should(in theory) weed out the thinner value sites.

                        Matt Cutts did mention in that interview the phrase 'level playing field' - not that I personally believe this could ever be achieved with an algorithm 🙂

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                        • 1 / 1
                        • First post
                          Last post
                        • How much does doing google search queries dilute your search console data
                          brettmandoes
                          brettmandoes
                          0
                          5
                          68

                        • Negative seo by Shady SEO Firm?
                          DavidMeshah
                          DavidMeshah
                          0
                          5
                          195

                        • What sort of knowledge differentiates a good SEO from a great SEO?
                          EGOL
                          EGOL
                          0
                          3
                          71

                        • Tools to check Google Local SEO with suggestions.
                          Linda-Vassily
                          Linda-Vassily
                          0
                          2
                          133

                        • SEO from INDIA Smarter then Google?
                          yeagerd
                          yeagerd
                          0
                          5
                          328

                        • SEO best practice: Use tags for SEO purpose? To add or not to add to Sitemap?
                          BWrightTLM
                          BWrightTLM
                          0
                          14
                          457

                        • Does Google Penalize for Managing multiple Google Places from the same IP Address? Can you manage from same google account or separate? Or does it matter since it's created from the same IP?
                          SEOKeith
                          SEOKeith
                          0
                          3
                          1.5k

                        • How much time do you think Google employees spend reverse engineering what we do?
                          Goetzman
                          Goetzman
                          1
                          5
                          1.6k

                        Get started with Moz Pro!

                        Unlock the power of advanced SEO tools and data-driven insights.

                        Start my free trial
                        Products
                        • Moz Pro
                        • Moz Local
                        • Moz API
                        • Moz Data
                        • STAT
                        • Product Updates
                        Moz Solutions
                        • SMB Solutions
                        • Agency Solutions
                        • Enterprise Solutions
                        • Digital Marketers
                        Free SEO Tools
                        • Domain Authority Checker
                        • Link Explorer
                        • Keyword Explorer
                        • Competitive Research
                        • Brand Authority Checker
                        • Local Citation Checker
                        • MozBar Extension
                        • MozCast
                        Resources
                        • Blog
                        • SEO Learning Center
                        • Help Hub
                        • Beginner's Guide to SEO
                        • How-to Guides
                        • Moz Academy
                        • API Docs
                        About Moz
                        • About
                        • Team
                        • Careers
                        • Contact
                        Why Moz
                        • Case Studies
                        • Testimonials
                        Get Involved
                        • Become an Affiliate
                        • MozCon
                        • Webinars
                        • Practical Marketer Series
                        • MozPod
                        Connect with us

                        Contact the Help team

                        Join our newsletter
                        Moz logo
                        © 2021 - 2026 SEOMoz, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. All rights reserved. Moz is a registered trademark of SEOMoz, Inc.
                        • Accessibility
                        • Terms of Use
                        • Privacy