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    Link analysis going Crazy. Next Linkscape update. Multiple Problems

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    • CompleteOffice
      CompleteOffice last edited by

      I went onto my link analysis today and noticed that I had lost Domain authority and lost a few links, even though I know I have gained a lot.

      I noticed this also happened to my competitors. Is this because the bot crawl isnt completed yet or something? please tell me its something like this?

      Or is it something else I have done?

      My competitors have lost thousands of links, and I know for a fact there link building campaigns are very much active.

      Also, my total links has gone up, even though it says ive lost external links and i have added no internal links.

      Am I really paying for this service?

      if you go to this link http://seomoz.zendesk.com/entries/345964-linkscape-update-schedule, you will see the linkscape update schedule.

      Notice, that it was updated on august 23rd, and we know this because of the blue box on that date with the text 'index update' written. MY data on link analysis changed this morning, so that led me to believe an update was last night, but there is no blue ribbon with the update text on the 13th september (which was last night). So Im confused, if the update, wasn't last night, why has my data changed?

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      • Gyorgy
        Gyorgy last edited by

        They often remove the lower quality sites from the OSE index, so probably that's the reason for the drop in linking root domains.

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        • CompleteOffice
          CompleteOffice @Gyorgy last edited by

          Yer but ones lost hundreds of links, and ones lost thousands of links, and I know they both have very active SEO campaigns , also it hasnt added on my fb shares and likes. how long does the link update take to complete?

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          • Gyorgy
            Gyorgy @CompleteOffice last edited by

            You can read more about OSE here, and the update schedule is here.

            The last two index updates were also index clean-ups. Some of our clients lost a few dozen linking root domains and thousands of links. One client had 34,000 links before the index update, now 25,000.

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            • CompleteOffice
              CompleteOffice @CompleteOffice last edited by

              Fair enough. Today, I have been to a couple of high quality sites that I know our link is on, but didn't show in the latest run of link analysis, I went back to the site our link was on and its still on there, and theres no reason this site should be taken off.

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              • seanmccauley
                seanmccauley last edited by

                Same here. I realise the 'OSE is looking to give better quality results and therefore only crawls the top pages of the web.' argument, but two .ac.uk (.edu equivalent here in the UK) links with DAs of 70+ and PAs of 45-50 are no longer appearing.

                Are these not  considered to be in the top part of the web? And that's just the start, several of our higher DA links are now missing from OSE, and (consequently?) our DA has dropped along with the PA of several of our top pages.

                Links have disappeared from major manufacturers websites on pages with PA of >50 pointing to another site I run (and yet, the links are still active). I don't see how this is an 'index clean-up'

                I completely understand removing links from brand new blogs with PA/DA of 1/1, sites that are still sandboxed, or deeply nested pages with very little authority, in order to improve overall performance.  As it is, using PA and DA as a means of  measuring how successful our SEO efforts are is becoming less useful - has it dropped due to something we've done or is it an 'index clean-up'. For the same reason, using it to determine which links are worthwhile getting has lost some of its value too.

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                • CompleteOffice
                  CompleteOffice @seanmccauley last edited by

                  I agree, it appears SEOmoz have really messed up

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                  • Gyorgy
                    Gyorgy @seanmccauley last edited by

                    Totally agree. It's confusing for the clients because we use PA/DA in the monthly reports and the recent DA drops resulted in questions, whether we're doing a good job or not.

                    I always explain that the authority values are relatively calculated and their website is compared to the other websites in the OSE index but numbers are just numbers and when a well trusted graph starts declining, I'm always in an inconvenient situation.

                    It would be great to hear more info about OSE updates, especially because we, the PRO users, support the development.

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                    • CompleteOffice
                      CompleteOffice @seanmccauley last edited by

                      Thumbs the question up to get SEOmoz's attention

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                      • Confetti_Wedding
                        Confetti_Wedding last edited by

                        Same story here I'm afraid. I'm a HUGE SEOmoz advocate but things seem to have gone slightly haywire with the latest OSE update. Our site has lost almost 200,000 links! Yikes! I'm not a massive 'link counter' and tend to focus on quality rather than content but we have active links from great resources such as the BBC and the Guardian newspaper which are no longer showing in our OSE report. I presume this is the reason our domain authority has dropped from 64 to 58.

                        I'll tweet Rand and SEOmoz and point them in the direction of this thread as there seem to be a few disgruntled customers here.

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                        • ShaMenz
                          ShaMenz last edited by

                          If you have concerns about changes in data with the latest update, the quickest and most effective way of getting answers is to email the Help Team direct using help [at] seomoz.org.

                          Moz Staff do not routinely read the Q&A,so are unlikely to be aware of issues unless they are specifically alerted to an thread by an Associate who happens to see it.

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                          • CompleteOffice
                            CompleteOffice @ShaMenz last edited by

                            We need to make them aware, because this many unhappy clients, and i am sure there are alot more when everyone woke up and logged on this morning. They need to sort this as it may become really really bad for them

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                            • CompleteOffice
                              CompleteOffice @Confetti_Wedding last edited by

                              Nice 1. Yer tweet them and make them aware. Ill do the same to.

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                              • ShaMenz
                                ShaMenz @CompleteOffice last edited by

                                I am not disputing that SEOmoz need be alerted to an issue.

                                My point was that an email to the Help Team when this thread was originated 8 hours ago would have alerted SEOmoz that there was an issue much more quickly.

                                Sha

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                                • CompleteOffice
                                  CompleteOffice @CompleteOffice last edited by

                                  I emailed them 3 hours before I started this post. Reliable service huh

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                                  • ShaMenz
                                    ShaMenz last edited by

                                    For updates on this issue, please follow @SEOmoz on Twitter.

                                    Tweeted in the past few minutes:

                                    Good morning everyone. We've seen the tweets and Q&A about OSE and will update here with information soon.

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                                    • KeriMorgret
                                      KeriMorgret @ShaMenz last edited by

                                      A slight correction is that the help desk staff doesn't routinely read the Q&A, but other SEOmoz staff and associates do read Q&A. I personally try to read every new question that comes in, but am myself on Pacific time and don't see things right away when they come in overnight. Emailing help at seomoz.org is the best way to report a problem like this.

                                      An OSE engineer did just come into the office and is aware of these Q&A threads and will be responding soon. We're so sorry that there have been problems, and we're working to resolve them as soon as possible. Sha Menz, thank you so much for helping out here.

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                                      • KeriMorgret
                                        KeriMorgret last edited by

                                        Hi everyone,

                                        First, there was an update last night, and I believe we've adjusted the calendars now.

                                        We're actively tracking down what happened. What the team really needs now is domains affected. If you could respond here with the domains involved (if you're allowed to share them) that would be great, otherwise, please send an email to help@seomoz.org with "OSE Domains" in the subject line so they can filter the incoming messages that way.

                                        Thanks for your patience everyone!

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                                        • CompleteOffice
                                          CompleteOffice @KeriMorgret last edited by

                                          my domain was affected: www.completeoffice.co.uk. thanks

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                                          • Confetti_Wedding
                                            Confetti_Wedding @KeriMorgret last edited by

                                            Hi Keri, Thanks for your response. The domain involved for me is confetti.co.uk Thanks again, Brendan.

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