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    Silly Question still - Because I am paying high to google adwords is it possible google can't rank me high in organic?

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    • pragnesh9639
      pragnesh9639 last edited by

      Hello All,

      My ecommerce site gone in penalty more than 3 years before and within 3 months I got message from google penalty removed. Since then till date my organic ranking is very worst.

      In this 3 years I improved my site onpage very great. If I compare my site with all other competitors who are ranking in top 10 then my onpage that includes all schema, reviews, sitemap, header tags, meta's etc,  social media, site structure, most imp speed, google page speed insight score, pingdom, w3c errors, alexa rank, global rank, UI, offers, design, content, code to text raito, engagement rate, page views, time on site etc all my sites always good compare to competitors. They also have few backlinks I do have few backlinks only.

      I am doing very high google adwords and my conversion rate is very very good. But do you think because I am paying since last 3 year high to google because of that google have some setting or strategy that those who perform well in adwords so not to bring up in organic?

      Is it possible I can talk with google on this? If yes then what will be the medium of conversation?

      Pls give some valuable inputs I am performing very much in paid so user end site is very very well.

      Thanks!

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      • Linda-Vassily
        Linda-Vassily last edited by

        Google Adwords does not directly affect your organic ranking in any way, Google makes a point of that.

        You should easily be able to talk to your Adwords representative about any aspect of your paid campaigns (in fact I am surprised that they have not contacted you--I get regular calls from my rep). I am sure that person could also reassure you about the effect of Adwords on your organic rankings.

        The phone number for free Adwords phone support is: 1-877-442-0135.

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        • Martijn_Scheijbeler
          Martijn_Scheijbeler last edited by

          No, this is absolutely not possible. Google Adwords doesn't have any influence on your organic ranking. Besides it pushing down the search results from time to time based on how many ads are showing.

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          • ChrisAshton
            ChrisAshton last edited by

            The other comments here are correct; Adwords will not alter your organic rankings.

            The issue here may be something else entirely. You mentioned that your onsite factors are better than the competition and both your site and your top competition have few backlinks. It sounds like that should basically put you on an even playing field there roughly (though it depends on link quality too) so perhaps there are some holes in your onsite that could be addressed.

            You also mentioned that your engagement metrics like time on site and page views are better than the competition. Assuming you're getting this info from something like SEMrush, it could simply be that you're relying on inaccurate data to make your decisions. SEMrush is great to give basic information but it isn't 100% accurate.

            If you're comfortable dropping a link to your website I'd be happy to take a much closer look for you and offer some helpful feedback? If you don't want that link public you can PM me if you prefer.

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