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    • afunguy24
      afunguy24 last edited by

      I don't know I. I don't have a description.

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      • seo_ploom
        seo_ploom last edited by

        You only want no more than 70 characters.  You also want a meta description, keyword aren't really useful.

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        • eyepaq
          eyepaq last edited by

          I personally use only the first 2-3 words in the title tag for on-page optimization. After that the keywords are to diluted to count - but this will depend a lot on the competition, content and other signals. I usually use the first 2-3 and the rest is 100% for users to increase navigation feel and CTR not for engines.

          There are cases I use deliberately titles longer then 70 chr if the user will benefit from that title.

          I am also 100% against a keyword metatag like flow within title: keyword1, keyword2, keyword 3 and so on.

          Anyway, is just an opinion.

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          • AlanMosley
            AlanMosley last edited by

            Keyword - brand
            or
            Brand - Keyword

            dont keyword stuff, also i believe that your keyword is diluted if you have too many words. if your keyword is 2 words and the title is 3 words, then you are using 66% of the toitle, if you have 10 words then you are only using 20%. Keep it short
            Having a long spamminfg title will not help you get conversions either. People like a nice neat to the point title to click on.

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            • Andropenis_Australia
              Andropenis_Australia last edited by

              It depends whats in the content of the page. All words will count, but as some others have said you could be diluting by putting too many in there.

              Don't stuff, make it readable, make it likeable (from a customers perspective) and choose your title carefully.

              Make sure it is relevent to the page content, otherwise you are taking 2 steps backwards.

              Keep it to one or two main keywords per page.

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