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    • MarieHaynes
      MarieHaynes @Webdeal last edited by

      The number of unique pages doesn't really matter when it comes to Panda.  You could have 300 unique pages, but if there are also 50 pages of copied content then this can trigger Panda.

      But the other question I had was about thin content.  An example of thin content would be a page that has say, a product photo, a bunch of template text that is the same from page to page a few ads and then only 1 or 2 lines of text.

      Another example of a thin page would be if you had a section of definitions and each one had its own page.  They could possibly be considered thin.

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      • Webdeal
        Webdeal @Webdeal last edited by

        I really appreciate your knowledge , but the site has nothing to do with Panda as it got 300 pages with unique and  well written content

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        • Dr-Pete
          Dr-Pete @Webdeal last edited by

          Keep in mind, too, that a lot of duplicate content is accidental. Google doesn't care about pages, per se - they care about unique URLs. So, if you have 300 unique pages, but something about your CMS translates that into 5,000 crawlable URLs, then you could definitely have problems.

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          • Webdeal
            Webdeal @Webdeal last edited by

            I will appreciate if you will explain it bit more in details....

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            • Webdeal
              Webdeal @Webdeal last edited by

              the site got only unique urls, by pages i meant urls too

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              • MarieHaynes
                MarieHaynes @Webdeal last edited by

                The thing is that if you lost 90% of your traffic at the end of September (i.e. Sept 27/28) then the issue is very likely either EMD or Panda.  If you have a good site with 300 well written unique pages then in my mind EMD is almost impossible.  So, I would go investigating Panda issues. Duplicate and thin content are the top culprits but there can be other factors.

                There are other possibilities though including a change in urls, DNS problems, hosting problems, malware issues, robots.txt problems, accidentally noindexing, a competitor ramping up their SEO etc. etc.

                If the traffic drop was a little later, like October 5 then Penguin is a possibility.  Penguin is related to overoptimized anchor text in your backlinks among other things.

                Sometimes when a site is affected on a Panda date but doesn't seem to have Panda issues it is possible that sites linking to your site were affected by Panda and as such you have lost some of your link juice.  But it is unlikely that 90% of your traffic would go because of this.

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                • Webdeal
                  Webdeal @Webdeal last edited by

                  all top 10 positions were dropped in mid of november 2012.
                  I said 90 % ...i think the statment has been exaggerated....but  65% for sure

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                  • MarieHaynes
                    MarieHaynes @Webdeal last edited by

                    Ah!  I was thinking it was end of September because you said you were a casualty of EMD.  If this happened mid November then it's definitely not EMD.

                    There were Panda updates November 5 and November 21.  If the drop doesn't coincide with those dates then it is not due to a major algorithm change.  (By major I mean Panda/Penguin as Google is constantly tweaking the algorithm.)

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                    • Webdeal
                      Webdeal @Webdeal last edited by

                      But Panda...as far as know looking for duplicate content....and we are very careful with that for all our sites....Content is 100 unique and never been spinned, written by humans....

                      so i am confused more...

                      This is the article by M.Cutts I remeber i read it

                      http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2214115/Google-Warns-of-Upcoming-Exact-Match-Domain-Algorithm-Change

                      date 3 october 2012....

                      after that day our site started to loose the trafic...not in 1 night but slowly..slowly...than
                      up to mid nov 2012 it lost about 65% ..this is why i have concluded from the begging that it was EMD

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                      • Dr-Pete
                        Dr-Pete @Webdeal last edited by

                        I have a post on the subject here - it's very long, because it's a complex subject:

                        http://www.seomoz.org/blog/duplicate-content-in-a-post-panda-world

                        We're not saying this is definitely the problem - just that you should be aware of how complicated it can get. Unfortunately, it's hard to tell without really looking at the site. A lot can happen to hurt a site's rankings, and the EMD update was just one piece of the puzzle.

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                        • Webdeal
                          Webdeal @Webdeal last edited by

                          Thank you...I will appreciate if you will give me 10 mins of your time....i sent site to your PM

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