Is there such a concept as 'Social Juice'?

[PhilH]

Hi,

Sorry if this question appears a bit confused, but here goes ...

My understanding is that the Google ranking algolrithm has three aspects:

• Content
• Links
• Social Activity (Tweets, FB shares etc)

I recognise that I can increase my PR by posting comments on highly ranked pages that allow 'follow' links.

I get that!

After investigating Google+ I see I can tie together:

• The content I contribute to (e.g. my website, my blog)
• My social networking activity (My Twitter activity, my FB fanpage, Google+ activity)

Suddenly Google has a view not just of my content, but also my social influence, almost like a Klout score.

It also means they have the potential to build a matrix of other content producers & social media commentators.

Therefore, can I gain what I'm calling 'Social Juice' (which would influence the ranking of my content) by:

1. Getting highly ranked social media commenters to interact/comment on any of my content/social engagement
2. By commenting on highly ranked content producers regardless of whether that comment contains a link back to my content.

So for point 2, perhaps a prominent expert in my field has a blog that allows me to leave a comment via a Twitter login, but I can't leave a link back to my website (no link juice), however because Google+ knows the comment is attributed to me (as my accounts are linked in Google+) I get 'social juice'. The idea being if I'm permitted to interact with an expert in my field, then I too must have some credibility. (Perhaps that not quite accurate, because I could engaged in an argument with said expert, so perhaps it is more like Klout's idea of influencing people)

If there is logic in point 2, then what might be the best way to 'login' to leave comments on something like a Disqus comment based system so that Google might gain access to this 'social jiuce'. I guess the best way would be to leave a comment via a Google+ account, but that doesn't seem to be option in lot of cases.

Big post, I hope its relevant and makes sense.

[Gyi]

In word, yes. But just as I wouldn't focus too much on PageRank influencing/sculpting/manipulation, I wouldn't focus too much on "Social Juice" influencing/sculpting/manipulation.

In other words, there is search value in conversing, engaging, and participating online. However, just like if you try to create artificial link signals, creating artificial social signals is likely to have little to no impact. My two cents.

[EGOL]

If you were Google and you heard everybody on FB and Tw clammoring about a website... you would probably pay attention.

Nuff said.

[PhilH]

Thanks for you comments ...

If you were Google and you heard everybody on FB and Tw clammoring about a website... you would probably pay attention.

But surely that isn't the whole story.

For example, this article in the UK based Independent newspaper has a PA of 50 & and a DA of 86.Surely if I'm involved in a discussion on a page of that quality it must have a positive effect of my  'social juice'?

The comments are closed on this particular article however I would have been able to add a comment via a Disqus direct login, or via Twitter of FB, etc. and I guess fundamentally I'm trying to work out the most effective way to comment on these type of articles. I'm not at all interested in generating links or social buzz for the sake of it, but when I do interact with quality articles and sites I want maximise the seo potential.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/is-depression-actually-good-for-you-2274662.html