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    • cbielich
      cbielich last edited by

      I always struggle with these pages I have on my site going back and forth debating what I want to do with them. On one side Google was content, yet at the same time its all about user experience.

      http://www.freescrabbledictionary.com/word-lists/words-that-start-with/letter/h/

      I used to have all my words listed on one page which could have been well over 10,000. Now I pagination them as you can see. I debate writing a header of content for these pages, but honestly users just want the words. Get in, get what you need and get out. What is the recommendation on these pages. Should I write content? Should I not?

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      • Matthew_Edgar
        Matthew_Edgar last edited by

        The "thin content" question can be tricky. Google's support article about this says that thin content is a page that doesn't provide users with "substantially unique or valuable content". Their support article about original content talks about the need for "authentic content".

        Together, I take to mean you should err on the side of what is good for your users. Content is important, but what is really important is useful content. In you case, it sounds like you are giving visitors what they want - get in, get what you need, get out. That seems like there is value and authenticity there for your users. So long as you continue to see higher rankings, more/steady traffic from Google, then I wouldn't think you should worry.

        As well, the other question to ask here if if you have received any manual actions about thin content in Search Console? I'm assuming not since you didn't mention that. But, just wanted to double to make sure you were checking for that.

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        • EGOL
          EGOL last edited by

          I would call the page that you linked to "keyword stuffed".

          I would call the page with the definition and the example sentence to be thin.

          Most of the dictionary sites that are able to persist in the SERPs have more content per page.

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          • cbielich
            cbielich @EGOL last edited by

            Can I get a little more info on your statements?

            Keyword stuffed? The only thing you could be referring too is the links from each word to its definition, because the only other text on that page is the title.

            Which page/word with the definition and sentence example was "thin"?

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            • cbielich
              cbielich @Matthew_Edgar last edited by

              Nope never a manual, just getting feedback

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              • Matthew_Edgar
                Matthew_Edgar @cbielich last edited by

                Well good, I'm glad you've not gotten a manual action.

                When you say feedback, do you mean user feedback or marketer/designer/developer feedback? If it were me, I'd pay more attention to user feedback. If it is what you said in your initial question that users are getting what they want (just the words, and they are clicking from the Letter H page to the HA, HAE, HAAF, etc. pages), then it would seem to me the page is valuable and useful. I wouldn't worry about Google's view of the page unless I started to see a dip in rankings, traffic, etc.

                Speaking of feedback, have you surveyed your users to ask about alternative content for these pages? You could ask your users what other content they may want here to make the page more valuable or unique or authentic for those users during their visit. But I wouldn't put in words or content blocks just to try to make Google happy for fear of the page being "thin" because that could create new problems on its own.

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                • T0BY
                  T0BY last edited by

                  I don't consider the page to be thin, I consider it to be useful!  It is worth checking what other people are doing on their list pages and seeing how you rank compared to them. If you are not being penalised it presumably isn't causing a problem.

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                  • EGOL
                    EGOL @cbielich last edited by

                    Keyword stuffed?

                    I am referring to the page below.

                    http://www.freescrabbledictionary.com/word-lists/words-that-start-with/letter/h/

                    It is nothing more than a big list of keywords.  The links that take you to definition pages.   That page is stuffed full of keywords.

                    the only other text on that page is the title.

                    That is the second problem with this page.  if you run it through a spider simulator you will see that google might not be able to see those words.   If you "view source" for those pages you will not see those words.

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                    • EGOL
                      EGOL @T0BY last edited by

                      The test will be to see if google will index these pages, if they will rank high enough for anything to pull traffic, and if Google sees them as a Panda problem.  I think these definition pages are risky.  Go out and look at what the dictionary sites (that rank for anything) have done on their definition pages.  There is a lot more content.

                      ================================

                      On this page, Google sees a one sentence definition and one sentence that uses the word.  There is also a lot of characters that Google will not understand.

                      http://www.freescrabbledictionary.com/dictionary/word/haboob/

                      I copied some of the definitions and searched for them in text on Google.  The definitions that I checked were found verbatim on over 1000 websites.

                      The example sentences that use these pages are also not unique.  They are found on other websites.

                      These pages are risky for another reason.

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