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    Non Manual penalties, should I trash my site?

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    • AdAdam
      AdAdam last edited by

      My URL is: www.adserve.com.au

      I get no traffic from google and I am convinced that I have penalties from the links that point to my page. I have written to google previously and they told me that there are no manual penalties on the site. I give up... I am shelving my ENTIRE brand and starting again with a new site, http://www.trusignage.com, I do not want to do this but...

      If I do a search for
      "Using and implementing the AdServe digital menu board system couldn’t be easier! Just get any screen installed by a tradesman or electrician, plug the digital menu board device"

      two pages from within my site come up but my homepage does not, it comes up when you click on "In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 2 already displayed"

      A search for
      "The AdServe system comprises of only one tiny component that can plug directly into the HDMI port of a screen. Traditional digital signage systems require drilling into walls, running cables, a bunch of valuable space and the installation of several pieces of costly"
      Brings up another 2 pages from my site, when clicking on "In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 2 already displayed."
      My homepage does not even come up...  but the homepage of my new site http://www.trusignage.com comes up.

      My new site is at http://www.trusignage.com there is only 2 pages of duplicate content, the about us and the buy now page.
      Is google going to penalise my new site? I WILL NOT DO ANY SEO, only on page......... I wont hire any SEO firm at all.

      My old site has a few great links to it
      http://www.sixteen-nine.net/2013/06/24/android-digital-signage-closer-adserve/
      http://www.crunchbase.com/company/adserve-digital-signage
      I also have many of my REAL youtube videos that link to my site, maybe about 15
      If I 301 redirect my penalised site to my new one am I just poisoning my new site as well? I could get the links changed instead.

      I will have to keep my old site www.adserve.com.au as I have customers who go to that site to lookup my contact details for support etc. will google see the same phone number and address etc and think I am trying to fill google up with duplicate websites? I would really prefer to keep www.adserve.com.au for Australian clients and usewww.trusignage.com for international clients, if the site layout is the same but all of the site passes copyscape then will I get hurt by duplicate content?
      Google is ruining me.. I have no money to spend on adwords right now.

      I have a new highly inovative software product that has taken almost 2 years to develop and I think I deserve more than 4 visits per month. My actual business has been around for 7 years.
      I invented SaaS digital signage in 2007 http://youtu.be/-YpyjLALoBU find me some web based digital signage system that was around prior to 2010?
      This is me and my product http://youtu.be/ClXSiIA5DRY
      Why should my site be treated as trash by google?

      I have in the past employed a SEO firm and if I search for "If you are looking for the top provider of digital signage in Australia, visit today" I find 70 absolute crap links to my site. I have disvowed them, there must be more links somewhere but I have no money or time to chase down site owners to remove them when I do not even know if I can get them all and have no guarantee that this will even help..

      So bottom line, do I need to junk my www.adserve.com.au site? There is no getting away from what some SEO company has spammed in the past?
      And again, using a tool to hunt down these spam links and try to get them removed will tie up my own time that needs to be spent on developing my software and I have no cash to pay people to do this for me.

      [edited by staff because line breaks weren't showing]

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      • CommercePundit
        CommercePundit last edited by

        Don't get hyper..!! 🙂

        Just get your all links from webmaster, then sort out bad links manually. If you have total 100k links then also go and check manually, Use some functions in  excel to sort out bad links. Then disavow all bad links in google.

        And then just wait, Try this, it will definitely work and it will also recover your result.

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        • AdAdam
          AdAdam last edited by

          Hi Have done this already, 6 months ago, I also disavowed all large spam domains like *.ezinearticles.com

          I really think my domain is hossed.. Im more interested in whether google has made me a marked man now hehe and will slightly poison anything they associate with me.

          If my domain has the same phone numbers and internic records then maybe they will associate my new domain with the old one.

          Last year I was number two for my search term and number one for a good secondary search term.
          I paid some guy to get me to the first page for my primary search term on a no win no fee basis and I guess he just blasted away until it got there..

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          • CommercePundit
            CommercePundit last edited by

            Ok great..!!

            I could help better if you can explain me that what criteria you follow to identify bad links?

            Let me know what type of links you have disavowed. Here i have 1 tool which can help you to identify whether you are in Google penalty or not. Try it - http://fruition.net/google-penalty-checker-tool/

            Let me know that you are in Google penalty or not, so i can give you better suggestions on your issue.

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            • AdAdam
              AdAdam last edited by

              Thanks, I made a new site... Basically I disavowed every single link that I got from webmaster tools, except for a industry blog that did a story on my software and my crunchbase listing...

              I see now in Analytics that all the incoming google searches have no keyword data... Google is really interested in just making people buy adwords it seems..

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