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    • Andrew-SEO
      Andrew-SEO last edited by

      Hi

      One of our sites has seen a 40% drop in traffic since a redesign

      We have a complete 301 redirect list and have replicated all successful content.

      https://www.englishriviera.co.uk

      Any opinions would be most helpful.

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      • Nigel_Carr
        Nigel_Carr last edited by

        Hi Andrew

        If you type in to Google -  site:https://www.englishriviera.co.uk inurl:http:

        You will see that there are around 255 http pages still indexed some of which were cached on the 19 December so I am guessing that your switch from HTTPS was quite recent.

        While Google resolves these pages there can be an overlap with both versions ranking and of course, Google sees them as duplicates. It is fairly common to see a short drop in rankings because of this but it is not permanent. Google favours HTTPS sites over standard HTTP so it should not be long it comes bouncing back.

        I would go through the URLs you find by that search (above) and check that they all redirect. Meanwhile more on the switch here:

        https://security.googleblog.com/2016/09/moving-towards-more-secure-web.html

        and: https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/6073543

        There is also a helpful checklist here: http://searchengineland.com/http-https-seos-guide-securing-website-246940

        Regards

        Nigel

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        • Andrew-SEO
          Andrew-SEO @Nigel_Carr last edited by

          Thanks for this - I can see the search results. Where can you see the date they were cached?

          Thanks so much for the response.

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          • Nigel_Carr
            Nigel_Carr @Andrew-SEO last edited by

            Hi Andrew

            If you go to the search results from the INURL link I put there then go to the right of the URL there is a green arrow. Hit that and the word 'cached' and you will see a version of the page as scraped by Google with a caching date.

            Regards

            Nigel

            YsvJpSt

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            • Andrew-SEO
              Andrew-SEO @Nigel_Carr last edited by

              Thanks for this - very helpful. They aren't really the core pages though, so although this was super helpful I think something else is also going on.

              Anyone else have an idea?

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              • Nigel_Carr
                Nigel_Carr @Andrew-SEO last edited by

                Apart from that, I can't see a single earth shattering problem that is causing your site to drop just a lot of things wrong with the site which combined, may be causing that effect.

                I have scanned the site and:

                1. Duplicate content 911 pages but most are 'order' pages and those related to Trip Advisor - they don't seem to be doing you any harm as most of the searches are high up, eg dog friendly B&B in Paignton

                These pages are dominated by a huge hero graphic that takes the whole of the top of the page then a search box - I would consider removing the graphics and starting these pages at the listings. I would then add some descriptive content surrounding the themes.

                I would check in Google - GSC how the site handles the 'order' parameter - as it narrows/sorts content - maybe adjust the setting to that.

                You have a lot of listings which are incomplete - I'd remove the wording Awaiting Copy as it's on all of these:

                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/green-gables-brixham-p2165183
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/rose-cottage-torquay-p2164293
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/22-rowley-road-torquay-p2165423
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/29-north-furzeham-road-brixham-p2165243
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/53-north-view-road-brixham-p2165543
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/3-curlew-brixham-p2165663
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/3-plover-brixham-p2165693
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/1-mount-ararat-brixham-p2165483
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/5-manor-court-brixham-p2165033
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/19-prospect-road-brixham-p2164913
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/34-mount-pleasant-road-brixham-p2165353
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/1-elkins-hill-brixham-p2165343
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/53-king-street-brixham-p2165493
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/148-preston-down-road-paignton-p2165533
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/28-kelland-close-paignton-p2165553
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/125-reddenhill-road-torquay-p2165103
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/8-heath-rise-brixham-p2165513
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/3-4-coastguard-cottages-torquay-p2164143
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/the-midland-hotel-paignton-p2163533
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/4-dunlin-brixham-p2165673
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/20-devoncourt-p2164493
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/1-heath-court-brixham-p69543
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/5-warefield-road-currently-closed-p2162553
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/beach-cottage-torquay-p2164303
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/parkholm-hotel-paignton-p2162223
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/things-to-do/regency-palace-arcade-paignton-p2108783
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/21-prospect-road-brixham-p2165443
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/linden-house-torquay-p52503
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/brackencroft-guest-house-paignton-p2162253
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/wassail-cottage-paignton-p2165573
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/1-3-6-and-4-barn-road-paignton-p2164163
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/4-marine-parade-paignton-p2165793
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/4-clifton-grove-paignton-p2164463
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/bridge-cottage-paignton-p2165563
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/8-torwood-gables-torquay-p557253
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/things-to-do/the-match-room-sports-and-social-club-p2161733
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/riviera-nights-guest-house-torquay-p2162103
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/59-rock-road-torquay-p2165083
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/6-manor-house-torquay-p757773
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/chestnut-lodge-torquay-p77403
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/6-lisburne-place-torquay-p2164223
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/5-hesketh-mews-torquay-p92523
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/food-and-drink/jia-wang-chinese-takeaway-torquay-p2164213
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/the-dorchester-torquay-p2165283
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/springfield-torquay-p2163753
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/34-braddons-hill-road-east-torquay-p2165293
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/15-broadstone-park-road-torquay-p2165063
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/things-to-do/park-lane-torquay-p2374483
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/oddicombe-hall-hotel-torquay-p2163003
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/chelston-mount-torquay-p2162053
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/danecroft-brixham-p2165143
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/17-north-furzeham-road-brixham-p2165203
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/mandalay-apartments-paignton-p1530123
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/nevada-holiday-flat-lets-paignton-p2164173
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/things-to-do/go-karts-at-quay-west-paignton-p2160333
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/16-braddons-hill-road-east-torquay-p2164253
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/food-and-drink/broadsands-beach-cafe-paignton-p2106033

                Duplicate Description & Titles: You have quite a lot - some are from the sort/order others need separating out:

                All of these have the same Description: 'you’ll find plenty of dog-friendly hotels and holiday accommodation here on the English Riviera, Devon’s Beautiful Bay'

                With this title: 'Dog Friendly Hotels in Torbay, Pet Friendly Hotels - English Riviera'

                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/babbacombe-dog-friendly-accommodation?order=alphaDesc
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-torquay
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-torquay?order=alphaDesc
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/babbacombe-dog-friendly-accommodation?order=alpha
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-torquay?order=alpha
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-torquay?order=tripadvisorratingDesc
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/babbacombe-dog-friendly-accommodation?order=guidepriceDesc
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/babbacombe-dog-friendly-accommodation?order=guideprice
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-torquay?order=guidepriceDesc
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-brixham
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-brixham?order=guidepriceDesc
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-brixham?order=alphaDesc
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-brixham?order=tripadvisorratingDesc
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/babbacombe-dog-friendly-accommodation?order=grading
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-brixham?order=alpha
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-brixham?order=guideprice
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-brixham?order=grading
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-torquay?order=guideprice
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/dog-friendly-accommodation-torquay?order=grading
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/babbacombe-dog-friendly-accommodation?order=tripadvisorratingDesc
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/accommodation/by-location/babbacombe-dog-friendly-accommodation

                Awaiting Further Details - duplication

                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/whats-on/babbacombe-model-village-easter-egg-trail-p1413873
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/whats-on/super-summer-trail-bygones-p1491443
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/whats-on/half-term-coin-mystery-bygones-p1826943
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/whats-on/half-term-teddy-bear-picnic-bygones-p1491313
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/whats-on/easter-holidays-egg-hunt-bygones-p1666163
                https://www.englishriviera.co.uk/whats-on/halloween-hunt-bygones-p1449143

                Finally, a lot of descriptions are too long - over 156 characters.(1252 including order pages)

                A lot of titles too long - (474 including order pages)

                You have no canonicalisation at all and best practice is to self-canonicalise.

                Apart from that?

                Little written content.

                I'm guessing that a lot of this would have been on the previous site anyway - the overuse of large hero graphics is an irritation as you have to scroll to see content. There is no simple search - it's complicated and seems to appear on every page.

                Missing

                No Twitter cards
                No Facebook OG
                No Schema.org

                So lots missing but nothing that a good SEO couldn't sort for you.

                It is a combination of lots of things.

                I hope this helps.

                Regards

                Nigel

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                • Andrew-SEO
                  Andrew-SEO @Nigel_Carr last edited by

                  Hi Nigel

                  Sorry for the delay in responding. This has been so so helpful. Thanks very much.

                  I have people working on correcting the content issues.

                  The issue remaining is google will only index half of the site. I'm not sure why this is. Do you know of any sitemap testing tools?

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                  • Nigel_Carr
                    Nigel_Carr @Andrew-SEO last edited by

                    You can test the site in GSC - Google search console.

                    It's quite common for Google not to fully index a sitemap so check in there first.

                    Also my comment about Descriptions is slightly out of date already! Google has recently been allowing up to 300 characters so maybe curtail any description shortening - make them attractive through a great call to action.

                    Regards

                    Nigel

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                    • Andrew-SEO
                      Andrew-SEO @Nigel_Carr last edited by

                      It a really low portion of the sitemap though. It's of concern. I work with around 20 sites and the rest are indexed fully.

                      This one used to be indexed

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