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    • Vijay-Gaur
      Vijay-Gaur last edited by

      Additionally, do check the content using Fetch as google in Google Search Console / Webmaster tools. It would really help you see how spiders see the content compared to users. This is an important aspect of SEO which a lot of people ignore, you are looking to find that whether the spiders see a structured view of the content and not messy. I hope this helps, if you have further questions, please feel free to ask. Regards, Vijay

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      • ThompsonPaul
        ThompsonPaul @Ria_ last edited by

        While theoretically logical, Google's own John Mueller stated last week that code to text ratio has absolutely no effect on crawling of a site, and in a followup question, he directly told me text/code ratio has no effect as a ranking factor either.

        These used to be very minor considerations back when the search engine crawlers weren't as powerful, but no longer.

        Fully agree with Pia that the idea of "above the fold" influencing ranking is nonsense as well. Given that the sweet spot for consistently high-ranking pages is ~2200 words, the idea that only the first paragraph or two are more important is unsupportable.

        Hope that helps?

        Paul

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        • BlueCorona
          BlueCorona last edited by

          Any content below the fold will still be read. Are you trying to hide it but still get the SEO value? If that's the case, I would create a collapsible tab to keep the content on the page but hidden. If you want it to be visible, leave it as is and don't worry about Google not reading it—it will be read.

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          • BeckyKey
            BeckyKey @BlueCorona last edited by

            Hi

            Thank you for the replies. I don't want to hide it, I just can't have it pushing products down the page so they can't be seen..

            I thought in Google webmaster guidelines they included a comment to say they will ignore content behind tabs?

            Becky

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            • BeckyKey
              BeckyKey @Vijay-Gaur last edited by

              Hi

              So I did fetch as Google  - and I'm seeing the page quite differently if I'm Googlebot vs. visitors.

              It just sees a few big images, I can't see it rendering any product listings or content - do I now have a bigger problem?

              Thank you

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              • ThompsonPaul
                ThompsonPaul @BeckyKey last edited by

                Yup - Google still says content that can only be seen after a user interaction is given less importance. Kinda stupid, given that things like tabs/accordians are a major usability enhancement, but that's still where we are. 😞

                P.

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                • ThompsonPaul
                  ThompsonPaul @BeckyKey last edited by

                  I'm not seeing a problem in my GoogleBot simulators, Becky, but the one within your Google Search Console is still the best judge. Have you tried reloading the Fetch as... a couple of times? And tried it on different pages?

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                  • BeckyKey
                    BeckyKey @ThompsonPaul last edited by

                    Hi

                    Yes I tried different pages and it's still the same. I think it's to do with things we have blocked in robots.txt...

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                    • BeckyKey
                      BeckyKey @ThompsonPaul last edited by

                      Yeh it's disappointing.

                      I've tried having some content behind a tab and some under the products and I am not seeing either one as having much of an effect.

                      Unless I remove it altogether, I'm not sure what else I can do with it?

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                      • BlueCorona
                        BlueCorona @BeckyKey last edited by

                        Hi Becky,

                        Here is what I found:

                        The pros and cons of hiding content using JavaScript and CSS (display: none) has been a topic of some debate within the SEO industry, and Google’s comments over time have somewhat added to the confusion.

                        • **November 2014 **– Google’s John Mueller stated that Google _“may not” _index or rank hidden content. In aGoogle+ Hangout the following month, John repeated this, stating that hidden content would be _“discounted”_and has been for a number of years
                        • **21 July 2015 **– Google’s Gary Illyes, contributing to a Stack Overflow forum thread , provided clarification of this by stating that this type of content is given “way less weight in ranking”
                        • **27 July 2015 **– In a separate Stack Overflow thread on the same topic, Gary Illyes again confirmed that _“[Google] will index that but the content’s weight will be lower since it’s hidden” _

                        So the content will still be indexed, but deemed less important by the crawlers.

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