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    • A_Fotografy
      A_Fotografy last edited by

      Hello,

      During my last two MOZ crawls over couple of hundred 803 errors showed up. Thought that this might stop, but nop still creeping up. Not sure what has caused this.

      My server providers are WP-Engine and they already said that all good at their end.

      Pretty much all of those errors are for photos on my blog. I'm a photographer.

      I have a web guy as well, but he is not sure what to do now and how to get this fixed.

      Website is a-fotografy.co.uk

      Thank you and if someone could shed some light. I did research here already, but nothing what cover photo side.

      Regards,

      Armands

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      • mediawyse
        mediawyse last edited by

        Hey Armands,

        803 errors are the result of incomplete HTTP responses being received, using as a result of incomplete/incorrect SSL implementation on a site. Per the MOZ Learn about HTTP Errors in Crawl Errors report, here's how these are defined:

        "804 errors result from a site with misconfigured SSL software. If Moz's crawlers cannot correctly interpret an SSL response for a home page, the crawl ends immediately."

        Basically, these "can" be bad in that they result in an inefficient crawl and can end an actual crawl, immediately. Just like you should fix 4xx level errors since they can be bad for users, so too should you probably address these 804 errors since they can be bad for crawlers (specifically Moz though).

        More information on this issue can be found in these previous MOZ threads:

        1. https://moz.com/community/q/moz-crawler-has-been-finding-a-lot-of-803-and-804-errors
        2. https://moz.com/community/q/how-do-fix-an-803-error

        In my experience, these are usually the result of "Mixed Content" issues with your SSL implementation. However, this is also NOT what most SEOs (myself included) would classify as a HIGH PRIORITY ISSUE. But for some reason, Moz continues to classify it as such.

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        • A_Fotografy
          A_Fotografy @mediawyse last edited by

          Thank you Casey,

          I have a web guy on board now and server guys too. Weird thing is that this just started now. Web guy was fixing some issues with code recently to speed up my site and working with Optimize plugin. Could be that something was affected there maybe.

          Thanks,

          Regards,

          Armands

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          • A_Fotografy
            A_Fotografy @mediawyse last edited by

            Quick question. My server guys asking with what IP address MOZ is crawling my site. WP-Engine is saying that maybe they have blocked that IP address.

            How do I find this IP address?

            A

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            • mediawyse
              mediawyse @A_Fotografy last edited by

              Unfortunately, and I could be wrong here, but I believe that Moz doesn't use anything close to a static IP address for their crawl and instead uses thousands which constantly change when they run a crawl. It's all hosted from the cloud. So there is honestly no way to get a "range" for you to pass along.

              Instead, all you can do I believe is make sure you whitelist the useragent which I believe is just "roger."

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              • KristinaKeyser
                KristinaKeyser last edited by

                Hi there! Kristina from Moz's Help Team here.

                I just wanted to quickly interject and say that Casey is right! Unfortunately, we do not use a static IP address or range of IP addresses, as we have designed our crawler to have a dynamic approach. This means we use thousands of dynamic IP addresses which will change each time we run a crawl. This approach gives us the best dynamic view of the web, but it can make us incompatible with some servers or hosting providers.

                The best option I'd be able to suggest would be to identify our crawler by User-agent: rogerbot

                I hope this helps! As always, you can connect with our team about any issues you're seeing in the tools by sending a note to help@moz.com.

                Have a great day!
                -Kristina

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                • A_Fotografy
                  A_Fotografy @mediawyse last edited by

                  So got the response from Moz about this issue and seems like I can't do anything about and it is common problem with MOZ Roger boot.

                  My guess this is for both 803 and 804 errors.

                  " Unfortunately at this time our crawler isn't compatible with Server Name Indication (SNI). In general, SNI is a totally acceptable security configuration, but our crawler simply isn't equipped to be able to handle these settings.

                  If you are able to disable the SNI configuration on your site, then we should be able to crawl it normally. While it's something that we'd love to be able to accommodate for the future, we don't yet have the resources to be able to make those changes. "

                  Spoke with WP-Engine guys and they said it would be madness to disable this security option as it would definitely broke websites.

                  Sad face me and not sure what to do now.

                  A

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                  • mediawyse
                    mediawyse @A_Fotografy last edited by

                    I think the recourse here is simple. IGNORE IT.

                    Again, this is a "Moz Crawl" prominence issue -- they just assign a higher value to it than most. I seriously doubt this is hurting you. Go over to www.ssllabs.com and run your SSL configuration through that tool there. If you returns a high score, you're good.

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                    • A_Fotografy
                      A_Fotografy @mediawyse last edited by

                      This is the one MOZ did tests with and they said that Roger can't crawl site because of that SNI support issue. I got A- grade so I guess all should be good.

                      Thanks. Casey.

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                      • A_Fotografy
                        A_Fotografy last edited by

                        So errors keep creeping up and I have noticed significant drop in my website rankings too. So there is definitely a problem.

                        Seems like here is many threads on what is the problem, but no solution how exactly to fix it.

                        Even MOZ guys are shaking heads and not sure what to do about it.

                        Sad face me.

                        A

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                        • A_Fotografy
                          A_Fotografy last edited by

                          Is there another tool I could use to crawl my whole website to understand if that is only MOZ problem or could be something bigger.

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                          • A_Fotografy
                            A_Fotografy last edited by

                            Another thing I noticed that when all this 803/804 issue started my crawled page amount almost doubled.

                            I have a photography website with loads of photos. So it treats all photos as a separate pages and brings all these 8xx errors.

                            Should I be doing something about this?

                            Thanks,

                            A

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                            • mediawyse
                              mediawyse @A_Fotografy last edited by

                              I use Screaming Frog and it's bad-ass. But you have to pay for it.

                              A free option for you may be Xenu Link Sleuth. Also a quality crawler.

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                              • A_Fotografy
                                A_Fotografy @mediawyse last edited by

                                I have screaming frog too. But it crawls only website pages. All of those are fine.

                                Pretty much all errors I get are for images on my website. So basically for separate files.

                                Also wanted to ask.

                                Could this type of 8xx error problem be caused by one of the plugins in WP? Around that time I installed Optimise plugin (which was suggested by WP Engine to speed up my site)

                                Thanks Casey.

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