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    • Threeding.com
      Threeding.com @BlueprintMarketing last edited by

      Thanks. In this case I will duplicate the products and use the absolute canonical.

      Just want to make sure I understand correctly: All my products URL's are with question marks. I just don't understand, is this wrong?

      Regards,

      Tony

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      • Alex-Harford
        Alex-Harford last edited by

        It isn't wrong to use question marks in URLs.

        However - as Thomas says, short and descriptive URLs describe what is on the page, whereas the query parameters you use currently don't. "Keyword present in the page's URL" was also believed to be an important ranking factor by the participants in Moz's Ranking Factors survey earlier this year: https://moz.com/search-ranking-factors/survey

        By mirroring URLs, will each product then exist at 2 URLs? E.g.:

        example.com/product.php?id=3624
        and
        example.com/category/product

        If so, you don't want to do that as it creates duplicate content. Using canonical tags to fix the duplication doesn't solve the problem completely.

        If you change URLs, you should 301 redirect the old to the new, so

        example.com/product.php?id=3624
        would 301 redirect to
        example.com/category/product

        Just in case you aren't aware - a "301" is a permanent redirect, so when using a permanent redirect, even if other websites have linked to example.com/product.php?id=3624 - the browser will automatically redirect to the new URL, passing most of the authority built up from the links you mentioned.

        Whether I'd advise you to change the URLs of existing products depends on whether you can implement the redirects. In the short-term you'll lose a slight bit of link authority through the redirect, but in the longer-term, the frendlier URLs should benefit your website.

        Also, there's always a risk when making large scale changes to URL structure - you need to make sure customers can still navigate the site without issues, and search engine crawlers understand the changes you've made - 301 redirects are best-practice to ensure this.

        Ideally, when URLs are changed, all internal links should be updated.

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        • BlueprintMarketing
          BlueprintMarketing @Alex-Harford last edited by

          Hey Tony and Alex,

          Thumbs up Alex did an excellent job of explaining what I was trying to get across. I apologize I did not have much time when I replied.

          Tony I agree with everything Alex has said I would award him best answer.

          Sincerely,

          Tom

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          • BlueprintMarketing
            BlueprintMarketing last edited by

            Tony,

            Are using magento  as a CMS platform if not what CMS?

            you do not want to kill your crawl budget by having Google index session ID URLs.

            http://searchenginewatch.com/sew/news/2064349/crawl-index-rank-repeat-a-tactical-seo-framework

            • https://blog.kissmetrics.com/googlebot-optimization/
            • http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/crawl-optimization
            • http://www.seoadjust.com/seo/url-parameters-in-google-webmaster-tools/

            Indicate How to Handle Dynamic Parameters
            Tell Google and other search engines when to ignore any parameters added to your URL, such as a session ID or pagination. By doing this you are telling Google that http://yourdomain.com/keyword?sessionid=54 has the same content as http://yourdomain.com/keyword.

            Try using the URL Parameters tool in Google Webmaster Tools. https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/crawl-url-parameters

            Depending on your content management system, the URLs it generates may be “pretty” like this one:

            www.example.com/topic-name

            or “ugly” like this one:

            www.example.com/?p=578544

            • https://moz.com/learn/seo/url

            • https://www.quicksprout.com/2015/04/06/does-url-structure-even-matter-a-data-driven-answer/

            • http://www.wordtracker.com/academy/learn-seo/technical-guides/seo-clean-urls

            • http://mysiteauditor.com/blog/top-10-most-important-seo-tips-for-url-optimization/

            • http://www.searchenginejournal.com/five-steps-to-seo-friendly-site-url-structure/

            • https://moz.com/blog/visual-guide-to-keyword-targeting-onpage-optimization

            • https://moz.com/blog/url-rewrites-and-301-redirects-how-does-it-all-work

            • https://moz.com/blog/4-graphics-to-help-illustrate-onpage-optimization

            Large photo

            https://moz.com/rand/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/elements-optimized-lrg.gif

            • https://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-glossary-url-definitions/
            • http://stallion-theme.co.uk/seo-static-html-vs-dynamic-urls/
            • https://www.searchenginegenie.com/Dynamic-URLs-versus-Static-URLs.html
            • http://platform.productsup.com/help/35
            • https://moz.com/blog/dynamic-urls-vs-static-urls-the-best-practice-for-seo-is-still-clear

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            • Threeding.com
              Threeding.com @BlueprintMarketing last edited by

              Hi Alex, Thomas,

              Thanks a lot. Much appreciate your responds.

              Thomas,

              We use proprietary CMS. You can take a look at my website. www.threeding.com. I have noticed there are a lot of things to improve. The platform has plenty of content, much more than the competition but Google ranking is lower than many of the competitors. Now I am reading about SEO and it seems that we are on the right way.

              Regards,

              Tony

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              • BlueprintMarketing
                BlueprintMarketing @Threeding.com last edited by

                Hi Tony,

                I took a random URL

                http://www.threeding.com/product.php?id=567 out of your site and found the structure was identical to what you had shown us.

                If you give me some time and happy to give you a lot more information on what can be done to help you.

                I see Not found “Rel="canonical"Not found

                http://www.threeding.com/product.php?id=567

                Meta Robots

                Not found

                Rel="canonical"

                Not found

                Page Load Time 2.394 seconds Google Cache URL

                http://google.com/search?q=cache:http://www.threeding.com/product.php?id=567

                IP Address 54.72.236.205 Country United States

                Private message me or   allow me 24 hours and I will have quite a bit more data

                Tom

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                • BlueprintMarketing
                  BlueprintMarketing @Threeding.com last edited by

                  Tony on the URL I referenced below there is a clear breadcrumb trail to the product. If you created URLs  that used a subfolder for the category and then an additional subfolder for the product new for instance / The used a subfolder for the category and then an additional subfolder for the product new for instance

                  • www.threeding.com/antiques-historical/gravestone/
                  • www.threeding.com/antiques-historical/early-middle-ages/gravestone/

                  HOME  ANTIQUES & HISTORICAL  EARLY MIDDLE AGES  GRAVESTONE

                  As Alex said anytime you change your URL structure or your site structure you are going to deal with a lot of complications. Including loss of traction in the search engine's. There are methods of doing it where you go about making small changes as you work.

                  Let me know if this is something you're considering doing it so I'll give you more information on it and I   if you want.

                  All the best, Tom

                  www.threeding.com/

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                  • Threeding.com
                    Threeding.com @BlueprintMarketing last edited by

                    Hi Tom,

                    Thanks for your reply.

                    I thought  that if I used 301 for redirection would work. What are methods that will not affect my traction?

                    Best,

                    Tony

                    Threeding.com

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                    • Salience_Search_Marketing
                      Salience_Search_Marketing @Threeding.com last edited by

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                      • Alex-Harford
                        Alex-Harford last edited by

                        There's always a small amount of authority lost through a 301 redirect or canonical, but as long as you set the 301 redirects up correctly I wouldn't worry about it. It should benefit your site in the long-term.

                        I've overseen a few site migrations where unfriendly URLs (e.g. /product.php?id=1234) were replaced with friendly URLs (e.g. /category/product) and more often than not, immediately after the migration organic traffic and rankings remained consistent or improved. I think there was one where traffic and rankings dropped in the short-term but then recovered to a better level within a month.

                        If you go ahead with the URL change and 301 redirects, keep a crawl/record of your current website, then when you've completed the redirects, crawl the old URLs to see if they're redirecting as you expect. If they're not, fix them as quickly as you can.

                        I agree with Tom in terms of the URL structure and breadcrumb trail, though I am a fan of short URLs, so I'd shorten some of the category names when used in your URLs e.g.

                        /transport/air
                        instead of
                        /motors-and-transport/air-transport

                        Also be aware that
                        /transport/air
                        is different to
                        /transport/air/

                        • so make sure only one version exists - with or without the trailing slash.
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                        • BlueprintMarketing
                          BlueprintMarketing @Alex-Harford last edited by

                          I agree with Alex I was trying to think of a way to make the URLs little bit shorter and would recommend doing so as well.

                          The chicken is not an insult it is an analogy of somebody making changes to a site without checking the site structure and testing it prior.

                          When you make the changes use a tool like deep crawl or Screaming Frog SEO Spider

                          https://www.deepcrawl.com/knowledge/best-practice/test-development-changes/

                          https://www.deepcrawl.com/knowledge/best-practice/managing-url-redirects-301-302-307-and-meta-refreshes/

                          Look out for redirect chains shown below and or redirecting which you can check using this handy tool in addition to the other fantastic tools above.

                          https://varvy.com/tools/redirects/

                          You need to redirect from https// & http://  to one URL

                          See the bigger photo here http://i.imgur.com/zQYE65R.png

                          please keep in mind the chicken is just to be humorous and lighten everyone's day it's not an insult.

                          Respectfully,

                          Thomas

                          https://youtu.be/uJkbhAErRl4

                          rmuCC5j.png uoNm8WW.gif dDHQHSk.gif uJkbhAErRl4 zQYE65R.png

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