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    • Mike.Bean
      Mike.Bean last edited by

      1. Side wide vs homepage - Site Wide links should only be the top level categories and information pages like About Us or Contact Us

      2. Follow vs nofollow - Follow = better, nofollow = still good.

      3. Anchor text and descriptive text - Company Name + Web Design

      4. Alternatives or extra link opportunities - Only legit and related sites!

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      • Bob_van_Biezen
        Bob_van_Biezen @PatrickDelehanty last edited by

        Hi Patrick,

        Great addition! Didn't think about the potential risk of spammy backlinks the client might get.

        I will definitly take that in consideration. Did you see any penalties from this kind of links with clients?

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        • Andy.Drinkwater
          Andy.Drinkwater @Bob_van_Biezen last edited by

          I agree with you that this isn’t the only way you should be linkbuilding

          No, it just should not even be figured into any linkbuilding. At best footer / sitewide links will do nothing (or very little) - at worst, if you are seen to gain too many, you could bring down a penalty.

          Google specifically says that they don't want to see these sorts of links.

          Create content, make it amazing and share it. Create interesting infographics or get creative and make people get interested.

          Footer / Sitewide links isn't something I would ever advise anyone try to use as an effective tactic.

          -Andy

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          • MarieHaynes
            MarieHaynes last edited by

            I wrote a really long article a while back that summarizes everything that Google has said about this type of footer link:

            http://www.hiswebmarketing.com/footer-links-and-penalties/

            I've also given my advice on the best way to get the benefits of your clients linking back to you without incurring a penalty.

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            • Bob_van_Biezen
              Bob_van_Biezen @Andy.Drinkwater last edited by

              Hi Andy,

              I do agree about your advice to clients. The reason I bring this up is because it's totally normal in this industry (putting a stamp on your work) and for that reason I would find it logic if search engines treat these different than other side wide links.

              NoFollow is very rare and only makes up a very small % of all the links on the web (a lot of web developers don’t even know what it does) so I would find it strange if those “follow” links bring down penalties.

              From a search engine view, wouldn’t this be a great way to determine what web development firm made what kind of websites? If I build a great websites for a large corporation, why shouldn’t that be a quality signal? Reviews are?

              Did you see any concrete penalties that a web development did get because of these links?

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              • PatrickDelehanty
                PatrickDelehanty @MarieHaynes last edited by

                ^ Passing this along to my web dev team to start the discussion. Great stuff as always, Marie!

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                • EGOL
                  EGOL @MarieHaynes last edited by

                  Wow!   I was going to give my opinion on this topic, but I am going to shut up and just say.   Read Marie's article.  You will not find more comprehensive information from a person who is more qualified on the topic of link assessment.

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                  • Andy.Drinkwater
                    Andy.Drinkwater @Bob_van_Biezen last edited by

                    Did you see any concrete penalties that a web development did get because of these links?

                    I have seen a few over the last 2 or so years. And I agree, there is absolutely nothing wrong with having a footer link, just don't use it as a link building tactic.

                    From a search engine view, wouldn’t this be a great way to determine what web development firm made what kind of websites?

                    No search engines are going to be bothered about that - all you want to do is use it as a link-building strategy, and you really shouldn't.

                    If it was legitimate, everyone would be doing it and Google wouldn't be so against them for these purposes.

                    However, if you want to go ahead and do this, then far be it from me to stop you 😉

                    -Andy

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                    • Bob_van_Biezen
                      Bob_van_Biezen @MarieHaynes last edited by

                      Haha, the other guys already told you, but this is great! Thank you very much for all the research you did about this topic.

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                      • Bob_van_Biezen
                        Bob_van_Biezen @MarieHaynes last edited by

                        Hi Marie,

                        Your quick answer made me wonder, do you monitor this subject somehow? Or were you just lucky to see it pass by in the Q&A?

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                        • MarieHaynes
                          MarieHaynes @Bob_van_Biezen last edited by

                          A little bit of both.  I am browsing in the Q&A this morning. But, a friend of mine also emailed me to say that this would be a good question for me to chime in on.  🙂  Actually, the friend said, "This would be a good article for you to write!" not knowing that I already wrote one.

                          But I do have an IFTTT recipe that I use to alert me if someone asks about a penalty on Moz. It doesn't work perfectly, but I do get the occasional email prompt to come back and check out the Q&A.

                          I'm happy that my article was useful to you.  There really isn't a black and white answer to your questions, but I think that in most cases, provided you are not doing footer links on a massive scale and not overtly trying to manipulate Google, you should be ok to have followed links there.

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                          • TheZenAgency
                            TheZenAgency last edited by

                            How much value would these links actually give if they were followed? Just curious as they would be in the footer and would also lack relevancy as presumably websites would be getting designed for many many different companies in different industries.

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