Is Syndicated (Duplicate) Content considered Fresh Content?

[94501]

In phrasing the question as "is it considered fresh/unique," I'm going to assume you mean by google for the site's organic benefit. So, I guess the reasoning would be is the fact that it's fresh to the site a bigger positive than the negative of duplicate content. Is that what you're getting at? Personally, knowingly on-boarding duplicate content would be too big of a potential negative for me to consider doing it. I've done it as a noindex/follow for reasons other than Google, but not for some mystery freshness bump.

Not that you can't find examples of duplicate content ranking in more than one place. To me on-boarding indexed duplicate content seems like just asking for trouble.

Hope that helps. Best... Mike

[ColeLusby]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the feedback. That was one potential point I was making.

Am still curious if duplicate content would be considered "fresh" within a website. Good point of the duplicate content overriding the benefit of fresh content.

Thanks,

Cole

[94501]

Hi Cole,

Fresh by Google (if not noindexed) in this case would be kind of like the freshness value of a "fresh" error.

Maybe that's extreme, but point being, the content is not needed by the web, since it already exists. If there was absolutely nothing else being added to or changed about the site and my one option was adding duplicate content, I'd noindex/follow it and figure I might have gotten some small, small, small benefit from updating the site a little, maybe an improved user signal. I'd for sure keep it out of the index. I guess that's how I'd do it, if it had some value for visitors. If it's only value was adding something fresh and not that great for visitors, I'd find the extra hour necessary to re-write it into something fresh, unique and valued by visitors. .

The other thing about syndicated content is that after you make sure where else you can find it on the web via an exact phrase search in Google, it may not mean you've seen the only instance of it as it may evolve. Having duplicate content indexed with other sites of possibly low quality may put you in a bad neighborhood as sites with common content. If I had a ten foot pole, I wouldn't touch it with it.

I hope that helps. Best... Mike

[ColeLusby]

Thanks for your feedback Mike - definitely helpful!

In this hypothetical, we're looking at research or comprehensive articles for specific niches that could serve multiple businesses well as an authority.

Thanks,

Cole

[AlanMosley]

Short answer, NO

[Bob_van_Biezen]

Hi Alan,

Is there any source / own research that can back up this answer?

Would love to read more about this subject!

[AlanMosley]

Yes, freshness update was not for all queries, it was for certain queries that need fresh content such as football scores, or whose on the team this week, obviously we don't want the score from last year or who is playing last year we want the current data, that is where the freshness update may give you a boost while your content is fresh. Having syndicated content I cant see falling into this category, even if it did, being duplicate content would mean that only once source is going to rank.

Also you have to look at indexing, will the duplicate content even be indexed? if so how often.

That's why I say the short answer is no.

[Bob_van_Biezen]

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[Bob_van_Biezen]

Thanks a lot! Kinda made me realize I really should read some more about this update. Might be off topic, but what's your view on freshness applied to **all **pages. In this Whiteboard Friday its stated it only impacts the terms you describe:

http://moz.com/blog/googles-freshness-update-whiteboard-friday

But in this blogpost of that time (before the sum up) it’s stated that it’s applied to all pages, but does affect search queries in different ways:

http://moz.com/blog/google-fresh-factor

[AlanMosley]

Had a quick look at that page, did not see that it affects all pages. Anyhow google said 35% of queries, so could not be all pages.
Some points

1. Why would fresh data be excluded from duplicate content?
2. Is it likely that syndicated data is fresh?
3. What are google trying to do here, rank syndicated duplicate data?

I cant see it working

[Bob_van_Biezen]

This was the part that triggered me:

"Google Fellow Amit Singhal explains that “Dif__ferent searches have different freshness needs.”

The implication is that Google measures all of your documents for freshness, then scores each page according to the type of search query."

[AlanMosley]

Well that could mean that some don't need any.

Like

Q. Who discovered Australia, A. Captain Cook.
This does not need freshness.

Also consider being original content, in that case the timestamp being older would be better.

I like to think that I own google, and say to myself would I rank it? of cause some things may rank that were not intended to, but I think its quite safe to think that way.

[ColeLusby]

Hi all,

Thanks for the responses & feedback.
Alan, in this example, the fresh content would be relevant. Of course there are search queries that don't need freshness or updates, but I would argue most do need updates / freshness (even the ones we think we know the answer to over time).

Once again, the conversation is not about RANKING for that page but about HELPING the domain achieve "freshness & relevance" around a topic with that duplicate content.

Would love to see others chime in.

Thanks,

Cole