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    • RangeMarketing
      RangeMarketing last edited by

      We have you at positions 7 & 8 now, which is a little surprising to be honest. It looks like you have done a solid job with on-page SEO, however, the amount of links pointing to either pages is low compared to the competition on page one.

      I'm thinking that you may have inadvertently moved yourself up by having us search this term and most likely click on your webpages.

      Either way, you're on page 1 now!

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      • CommT
        CommT @max.favilli last edited by

        (Not Provided) means I don't actually know for sure exactly what keywords are driving traffic to these pages. However, I am tracking 8 related keywords:

        <colgroup><col width="333"></colgroup>
        |

        • 80 buy to let mortgages
        • 80 ltv buy to let mortgages
        • 80 btl mortgage
        • buy to let mortgage rates 80 ltv
        • 80 buy to let mortgage
        • buy to let mortgage deals 80 ltv
        • 80 ltv buy to let mortgage
        • 80 btl mortgages

        |

        The product page (https://www.commercialtrust.co.uk/btl/product-types/80-buy-to-let-mortgages/) is on page 2 for all the above keywords. The best position is 11, and the worst is 16. Obviously I want page 1!

        The Landlord Advice article (https://www.commercialtrust.co.uk/btl/landlord-advice/mortgages/btl-mortgage-80-ltv/) is on page 2 for just three of the tracked keywords:

        • 80 btl mortgage
        • 80 btl mortgages
        • buy to let mortgage deals 80 ltv

        My concern was that the product page was being held back from page 1 because Google has difficulty distinguishing between them and deciding which to put first. As it stands, the product page is not 'optimised' for all the keywords it appears for as we took the view that trying to get a page to list for multiple keywords was not going to be easy so my colleague wrote the advice page to cover off some of the keywords. This doesn't seemed to have done the trick though!

        Your point about customers is really important. You're absolutely right: we need to determine what visitors are expecting when they search for these keywords - I suspect they want to see rates, which is why we created the macros to place at the top of the pages to display the most up-to-date rates (updated twice daily, which is more often than our competitors do!), but that does homogenise the content somewhat. I did wonder if we should display more than three rates on one page but, the market for these products is small so I think there may ONLY be three products available anyway...

        I don't think people particularly read the content on any of our pages (nobody has the time) but I can use SessionCam to spy on visits. I think I will do this to see if the content is actually being read. It may be that all we need to do is display a rates table because that's all people want, but Google wants content....

        Thank you so much for taking time to answer my question, I really appreciate it.

        Best wishes,

        Amelia

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        • CommT
          CommT @RangeMarketing last edited by

          LOL that's great!

          Hmmmm... maybe this should be in my strategy! (KIDDING)

          You're right, we don't have many links. I'm not actively building links as I worry about Penguin these days. I am trying to optimise onsite as well as I can, and have a plan to carry out PR work to get national press coverage to earn links that way instead of building them in the old-fashioned way that I used to do back in 2009...! I think this is a better approach as news coverage for companies that offer financial services like we do is more likely to build trust than pretty much any other method of link bulding would.

          The upside of this is it kills two birds with one stone - gets us links from authority sites AND builds trust in our brand with the public - I see this as a 'win win' situation.

          Thanks for your input today, it is greatly appreciated!

          Best wishes,

          Amelia

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          • CommT
            CommT @MonicaOConnor last edited by

            Thank you Monica. I like your answer best, it's the most positive! I don't want to delete any pages so if I take your experience that the same site can appear for the same keyword more than once on page 1, and that 'all' I need is more links, then that's pretty clear...

            You're right, the two pages are NOT identical, I try to be really careful with duplicate content! It's a bugbear of mine.

            I will definitely look at the other sites that appear above ours and see if we can do anything to improve ours.

            Thank you,

            Amelia

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            • MonicaOConnor
              MonicaOConnor @CommT last edited by

              Thanks Amelia, glad I could help! Good luck!

              Monica

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              • max.favilli
                max.favilli @CommT last edited by

                If I was you I would check keywords using semrush.com but seems you did a nice job already analyzing them.

                I actually agree with what Monica said, theoretically is better to have two pages on serp for CTR.

                But if I look at serp for those keywords and I open the two pages I feel a bad taste in my mouth, I have the feeling I have been cheated because the meta title before to click and the content after the click seems too similar (I didn't read through all the content I confess), but I may be biased since I know what you are trying to do, a regular visitor my feel different.

                Nevertheless I think the theoretical benefit of having two pages in serp could be balanced by the ranking benefit of merging the two pages; iif a big jump was possible (http://moz.com/ugc/click-through-rates-in-google-serps-for-different-types-of-queries). Which seems highly unlikely, but you can test it.

                To merge or not to merge?

                I changed my mind, I would not merge. I would start to slightly change one of the pages, both meta-title and content, to remove that bad taste in my. And monitor ranking variation after each change.

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                • RangeMarketing
                  RangeMarketing @CommT last edited by

                  Of course!

                  Good luck with everything Amelia.

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                  • celilcan.com
                    celilcan.com last edited by

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                    • CommT
                      CommT @max.favilli last edited by

                      Thank you. Yes, I use SEMRush - I actually really like their tools for both SEO stuff and Adwords.

                      I'm going to do as you suggest - make the content more different on each page.

                      Thanks again for your time to answer this, it's much appreciated.

                      Best wishes,

                      Amelia

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                      • CommT
                        CommT @celilcan.com last edited by

                        Thank you for answering this question, it's much appreciated.

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                        • max.favilli
                          max.favilli @CommT last edited by

                          Have fun.

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