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    Why isn't my uneven link flow among index pages causing uneven search traffic?

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    • GilReich
      GilReich last edited by

      I'm working with a site that has millions of pages. The link flow through index pages is atrocious, such that for the letter A (for example) the index page A/1.html has a page authority of 25 and the next pages drop until A/70.html (the last index page listing pages that start with A) has a page authority of just 1. However, the pages linked to from the low page authority index pages (that is, the pages whose second letter is at the end of the alphabet) get just as much traffic as the pages linked to from A/1.html (the pages whose second letter is A or B). The site gets a lot of traffic and has a lot of pages, so this is not just a statistical biip. The evidence is overwhelming that the pages from the low authority index pages are getting just as much traffic as those getting traffic from the high authority index pages. Why is this? Should I "fix" the bad link flow problem if traffic patterns indicate there's no problem? Is this hurting me in some other way? Thanks

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      • RyanPurkey
        RyanPurkey last edited by

        If you're speaking in terms of just organic search visits it doesn't seem to be a problem, but "traffic" in your example is a little broad.  There could be paid search being targeted to those pages, or some sort of social media mechanism that causes people to visit their specific page, or so on.

        A segmented look at your analytics for the site (or site section) will give you a good idea of whether or not the pages have a problem getting organic search traffic.  If they don't I wouldn't worry about link flow.  Really the main reason to adjust it is if you're lacking indexation or rank, and so far from what you've described you're not.

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        • GilReich
          GilReich last edited by

          Thanks. Sorry I wasn't clear, when I say the traffic is pretty evenly distributed among the pages, I'm referring specifically to organic traffic. I'm wondering if the relatively even distribution of organic traffic is proof that better balancing the link flow won't increase traffic.

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          • RyanPurkey
            RyanPurkey last edited by

            Yes, an even distribution of organic search traffic seems to indicate that the pages are indexed and ranking.  Gains might be made via external links, but as far as modifying your link flow goes, it doesn't seem like the site needs it based on what you've described.

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            • Travis_Bailey
              Travis_Bailey last edited by

              You shouldn't expect anyone to solve anything that technical, with any sort of certainty, without stating the actual domain.

              If it's getting organic traffic, great. Could it get more? Maybe.

              No one can speak with any sort of certainty based upon what you have written at this point.

              Apologies if I appear a little cranky. I'm getting tired of all of these; "I have a problem with a bajillion possible issues, but I won't tell you what I'm looking at." questions.

              So you can always PM me, I'm not coming after your client. The problem is more interesting.

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              • Everett
                Everett last edited by

                As others have stated, we can't really say much with certainty unless we view the site. However, here are my two pennies anyway...

                The farther you go down into the directory structure (assuming you have a logical taxonomy and site architecture) the more long-tail and specific the keywords will be. The more long-tail and specific the topic, the less page authority is needed to rank.

                With that said, if I was working on a site with millions of pages I'd look into doing a content audit to determine which ones even SHOULD be in the index. Very few sites can scale quality landing pages into the millions.

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                • GilReich
                  GilReich @Everett last edited by

                  Thanks. I can't share too many details for confidentiality reasons. I realize that makes it hard / impossible to diagnose correctly, and I'm sorry about that.

                  These are person pages. The site's link structure naturally gives more link power to the people with the most connections. We could NoIndex (or mask links to) pages that don't have much information but I think such a system would probably be complex and may backfire.

                  So there's not the kind of taxonomy / directory / long-tail keyword structure that you would expect from a large product directory (for example).

                  Let's pretend we're discussing WhitePages.com where http://www.whitepages.com/ind/p-001 has a Moz Page Authority of 45, but http://www.whitepages.com/ind/p-150 has a Moz PA of 1. I can fix the problem and get the back pages to have higher PA, but I can't recommend that my client spend resources to fix this since the pages at the back of the index get just as much organic search traffic as the pages at the top.

                  Thanks

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                  • GilReich
                    GilReich @Travis_Bailey last edited by

                    Hi Travis,

                    Thanks for your reply.

                    As I just wrote to Everett, I can't share too many details for confidentiality reasons. My site is somewhat similar to WhitePages, where http://www.whitepages.com/ind/p-001 has a Moz Page Authority of 45, but http://www.whitepages.com/ind/p-150 has a Moz PA of 1. We have similar PA distribution among our index pages, but our organic search traffic is just as high when linked to from the PA 1 pages and when linked to from the PA 45 pages. So I don't know if my client should spend time fixing the problem.

                    Thanks

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                    • Everett
                      Everett @GilReich last edited by

                      Hello Gil,

                      With regard to user-generated profile pages, I typically recommend to clients that they noindex,follow these until they reach a minimum threshold of completeness (e.g. 75% complete) to avoid filling the index with thin "stub" pages, or those created by spam profiles.

                      If these are local business type pages, as in the White Pages example, the more "supporting content" you customize those pages with the better. For example, a local business listing page could link to similar businesses in the area, provide star ratings, allow visitors to leave reviews/comments, share demographics data for the area, include links to the business' social profiles, embedded videos (commercials, etc...) for the business and many other things.

                      I realize these pages might be getting traffic at the moment, but as Google updates the machine learning algo to incorporate feedback from the quality raters, who are now being asked to look at supporting content, your client may find their traffic to those pages (and indeed the site as a whole) slowly declining over the next year or two.

                      That's about as far as I can take it without seeing the pages. Good luck and I hope we've been of some assistance!

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                      • GilReich
                        GilReich @Everett last edited by

                        Thanks Everett, I appreciate it!

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