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    • Ivek99
      Ivek99 last edited by

      Hi,

      I see that many good websites have backlinks from very good blogs/sites which are relative. What I noticed that everyone use their real name or generic name in comments. They do not use the keyword for the name. So later they get backlinks with anchor text of their names... So, my question is this good technique ? Do I have any benefits from these backlinks for my website ? With such a technique, whether it is enough just to leave your real name or may I periodically put the keyword for the name ?

      Thank you

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      • VirginiaC
        VirginiaC last edited by

        No, please don't use the keyword tactic. You should sign up for Matt Cutts videos on YouTube to get the latest news on Google updates. Guest blogging is an issue now, regardless of if the blog has relevant content for your business. The sites that show keywords in the names, I believe only appear after the commenter has been approved to comment but I could be wrong. I have seen a pattern here though. These sites also seem to be using 'commentluv' wordpress plugin.

        If you get links they should be about your brand, not keywords. That is the end of story I am afraid. Follow your competitors, research your subject and publish good content on your own blog and share it.

        Virginia

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        • HillyCE
          HillyCE last edited by

          Using the keyword tactic is a bad idea. Comments are meant to be personalized so using a fake name or a keyword is not recommended. UX still factors into SEO so you could be harming your site and the site you're commenting on by doing that.

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          • Ivek99
            Ivek99 last edited by

            hi

            so backlinks from comments on blogs or sites are not good altought  the blog is high page rank, relative and good ranking ? if this is true, then please tell me in what way is best to get backlinks except guest postinh ?  i also use good forums for backlinking.

            thank you

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            • HillyCE
              HillyCE @Ivek99 last edited by

              Targeted backlinks utilizing keywords in place of your actual name are not recommended. Google will still recognize the backlink - it just won't have targeted anchor text. If you use targeted anchor text, Google may see the backlink as spam, this is why it's not recommended.

              Forums may be a better choice for you, but I would still use caution there.

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              • LesleyPaone
                LesleyPaone last edited by

                I am going against the grain here and say they work in moderation. If you happen to comment a lot, just because you like to comment, 5%-10% of them being keyword is not going to hurt you. It will more than likely help you a bit too, but not too much.

                Comments are a very weird / grey area. I know most people think they provide no SEO benefits, but there are some people that think they do. I ran into the guy that runs Raven Tools at a local SEO meeting and he mentioned that he was doing some experiments on comments. Basically, if you have someone that has a high authority in authorship commenting on a post, it raises the post. That is something interesting to think about.

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                • Ivek99
                  Ivek99 last edited by

                  Hi,

                  so you say that backlinks from comments are not good. also backlinks from forums are also not good....

                  So how to get backlinks than ?

                  thank you

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                  • Andy-Halliday
                    Andy-Halliday @Ivek99 last edited by

                    "So how to get backlinks than ?" - this bugged me, what have you been doing upto now to get links, if you have been performing black hat techniques (http://www.pushon.co.uk/articles/top-5-white-hat-and-black-hat-search-optimisation-techniques/) then it might be worth giving up on your domain, and starting with a new domain (especially if you have a penalty) or trying to remove the penalty before you start doing any of the below.

                    there are many ways to get good quality links without guess blogging. Ive never done guest blogging and wouldn't do it on low quality sites, writing a great article on youmoz is different and can get you some links, but that is a different debate (see here http://moz.com/community/q/could-posting-on-youmoz-get-your-penalized-for-guest-blogging

                    I could spend days writing a huge articles about ways of getting links without guest blogging, but I will keep it relatively short.

                    1. How about writing and producing great content on your website that people want to link to.

                    2. If you sell products, send them out to some influential people in your niche and ask them to review (not guaranteed to get a link, but usually works)

                    3. Out reach, contact people in your niche and offer advice to help their articles and see if they can quote you.

                    Below is some great articles on helping you, I would also recommend watching Rands WhiteBoard Friday and subscribing to Matt Cutts on Youtube

                    http://moz.com/blog/google-traffic-links 

                    http://moz.com/blog/earn-higher-rankings-without-content-creation-whiteboard-friday

                    http://moz.com/blog/filthy-linking-rich-how-to-passively-attract-valuable-links

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                    • HillyCE
                      HillyCE @Andy-Halliday last edited by

                      I completely agree. Backlinks can't and shouldn't be bought, farmed, or created. They should be acquired naturally by crafting great content that people want to share.

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                      • Ivek99
                        Ivek99 last edited by

                        thanks for the help.... But you need to understand that i did not used any black hat techniques and I dont have a penalty from Google....

                        How can someone share my content if he cant find me.... for example , few days ago i wrote a review for one new phone and i am at page 3 on Google.... so he needs to do deep search to find me.... It's not logical to me ??

                        the only option is to contact them and ask them to publish something reletad to my site ?

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                        • Andy-Halliday
                          Andy-Halliday @Ivek99 last edited by

                          that is great - at least you havent done any Black hat.

                          page 3 isn't too bad, but why do you have to wait for these people to find you. Why don't you take your content to these other blogs, new sites and show it off to them.

                          If it is good ( and I am assuming it is) they will naturally want to link to you, quote you in their articles.

                          This will then boost the articles page authority and also your domain authority meaning future posts rank higher, but even then - don't stop the out reach. Don't wait for people to find you - go out and shout about your great article.

                          If your waiting for people to naturally find your article and link to it, you will be waiting ages and it may never happen. The moment may have past, however go to news sites, tech blogs and share them your article and knowledge.

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                          • LesleyPaone
                            LesleyPaone @Ivek99 last edited by

                            I totally disagree that forum posts are bad. What is the point of SEO? To drive people to your site. Well done forum posts do just that. I post to a lot of forums, so far this month I have around 7k visits to my blog from forums. Maybe they do not hold any "SEO" weight, but the do the exact same thing that SEO does.

                            The biggest thing I would suggest with forum posting is to not be spammy. Be helpful, write content that is relevant to questions, and post a lot.

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                            • Ivek99
                              Ivek99 last edited by

                              Ok. How can i do that ? Do i need to contact them by e-mail and asking what ? or how ? please explain

                              Thank you 🙂

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                              • Ivek99
                                Ivek99 @Andy-Halliday last edited by

                                Ok. How can i do that ? Do i need to contact them by e-mail and asking what ? or how ? please explain

                                Thank you 🙂

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                                • Andy-Halliday
                                  Andy-Halliday @Ivek99 last edited by

                                  I guess a combination of both, I always find phone is more personal and has a better success rate, but takes a lot longer and requires more work.

                                  I would suggest try both methods and keep trying, you will get a lot more no's then yeses, but keep going. If it was easy everyone would do it.

                                  I don't personally do the work, I just manage a team to do the outreach, so the actual work involved I am not too knowledgeable, but from speaking with them this morning, a combination of the two and don't give up.

                                  It does get easier - the more your known, but to get known you have to spend time contacting these websites and getting rejected.

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                                  • Ivek99
                                    Ivek99 @Andy-Halliday last edited by

                                    Thank you 🙂

                                    I'll be steadfast 🙂

                                    and yes it will be hard, i have sent three e-mails and for now no respond 😞

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