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    • DrMcCoy
      DrMcCoy last edited by

      I have around 20 temporary redirects that i can not really change.  they look like this:

      http://www.bestfitbybrazil.com/reviewhelpful.asp?ProductCode=PANT+PA4069GRAFFITI&ID=17&yes=yes/login.asp

      See attached

      As you can see they are from LOGIN.ASP.  This are system calls.  I think the last thing I tried was blocking them in my robottxt file.  but it doesn't seem to make a difference.  Am I being effected by these redirects? How will Google look at them?

      QmiQcD6

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      • Travis_Bailey
        Travis_Bailey last edited by

        You have bigger problems. The HTTP and the HTTPS version of the site can be crawled in a limited fashion. Long story short, the site is generating it's own duplicate content.

        My question is; "If they are paying to drive traffic to this URL, then why is it doing this?"

        This isn't deadly, it's just not good.

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        • DrMcCoy
          DrMcCoy @Travis_Bailey last edited by

          Hi Travis.  and thx for your response.  a little confused by what you mean.  http and https "can" be crawled in a limited fashion???  did you mean "can't"? and if so, what then? how does that relate to my question.  Generating duplicate content?  please elaborate.  You seem to raise more questions here 🙂  I need answers... lol.  thx.

          btw this is my robot txt file.  I've been blocking the directories that keep coming up as 302 redirects.  is this good or bad?  I noticed alot of these are from customer reiviews.

          Disallow: /cgi-bin/
          Disallow: /mobile/category.aspx
          Disallow: /myaccount.asp
          Disallow: /shoppingcart.asp
          Disallow: /orders.asp
          Disallow: /AccountSettings.asp
          Disallow: /net/FreeShipping.aspx
          Disallow: /net/AuthenticateSession.aspx
          Disallow: /affiliate_signup.asp
          Disallow: /GiftCert_default.asp
          Disallow: /redeem/
          Disallow: /MyAccount_ApplyGift.asp
          Disallow: /help_answer.asp
          Disallow: /login.asp
          Disallow: /login_sendpass.asp
          Disallow: /SearchResults.asp?Cat=1956
          Disallow: /category-s/1960.htm
          Disallow: /MailingList_subscribe.asp
          Disallow: /reviewhelpful.asp

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          • Travis_Bailey
            Travis_Bailey last edited by

            Google won't index what it can't crawl. You should be alright, from a duplicate content perspective. If people, real live ones, are trying to reach the site via this link, then you might have problems. If they can't reach it, you can't sell. You'll have to check your server log files to figure that out.

            If actual 'hoomans' are trying to reach that URL (Not me bro, you don't want to see me in leggings. I'm in Grapevine TX. You can discount that traffic.)

            Otherwise, I like to do a little more than the standard here's a blog link response. This is especially the case when I have an actual site to work with, not a vague question. A portion of the secure version of the site can be crawled, while obeying robots/nofollow which can lead to duplicate content concerns.

            Send me a message with your email and I can send you the crawl. At least you'll be able sort out that issue. Your main concern may be a non-concern.

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            • DrMcCoy
              DrMcCoy @Travis_Bailey last edited by

              seems like MOZ is not finding the redirects since I disallowed them in robot txt using **"Disallow: /reviewhelpful.asp" **.  The only way a live person would try to find these links in search is if they were just entered something like the "product name + rating" google finds it.  I guess that means it doesn't need to be indexed to be found??

              Anyhow my email is support@bestfitbybrazil.com

              thx.

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              • Travis_Bailey
                Travis_Bailey last edited by

                If the URLs were indexed, found and bookmarked, then visited at a later date - possibly - you're missing some sales. I doubt it, but that's something to keep in mind for the future.

                The Moz forum is the place to ask about further questions. I may not have the time to get back to you, or not in the time frame you need.

                Sending away soon-ish.

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                • JaneCopland
                  JaneCopland last edited by

                  Hi Robert,

                  Disallowing these in robots.txt is the correct thing to do here - this takes away any potential Google problem regarding the login pages. Google MIGHT still index them (but it's not - see here) because blocking via robots.txt says "don't crawl this" rather than "don't index this URL". Subtle difference, but you do sometimes see URLs that are blocked in robots.txt showing up in the index as JUST a URL (no title tag or meta description, since Google was not allowed to crawl the page). An example from your own site is the affiliate sign up page, which is blocked but indexed (see screenshot here).

                  Moz obeys robots.txt but it's showing these errors, likely because it has seen the links to those redirecting pages somewhere. But Google should not be a problem.

                  Regarding the HTTPS issue Travis pointed out, check out this search. This shows that you have pages with HTTPS URLs indexed - the top result for me is this page.

                  You need to implement the canonical tag to point to the preferred version of each URL (HTTP or HTTPS), or implement 301 redirects from one to the other, so URLs like this one are not indexed as they are now.

                  Cheers,

                  Jane

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                  • DrMcCoy
                    DrMcCoy @JaneCopland last edited by

                    Thanks for you help Travis. Jane, I'm a little confused about this http vs https.  I know they mean, but not whats happiening.  I use Volusion.  This a snap shot of my settings.  Doesn't this take care of the Canonical concern or do i need to check something else on?  Volusion support claims this is fine.  Are you seeing something that might reflect its not.  There setting is supposed to handle the default.asp vs. other dupe issues.  My settings

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                    • JaneCopland
                      JaneCopland @DrMcCoy last edited by

                      Hi Robert,

                      Weird, you are right - the canonical tag appears on the majority of pages, but not on a select few, like https://www.bestfitbybrazil.com/Articles.asp?ID=282, which is indexed with its https URL. Is there something different you can see about this URL structure or where it sits in the site that might cause this? Could be worth pointing this one out to the Volusion team too. It appears that no URL with the Articles.asp?ID= structure has a canonical tag.

                      The other thing I see about this URL by just having a play around is that just changing the query string at the end to 283 as opposed to 282 is bring up the same page: http://www.bestfitbybrazil.com/Articles.asp?ID=283

                      Unrelated to the initial issue but a lot of the site's content is also duplicated on http://bestfitbybrazil.blogspot.co.uk/, a Google plus page and Tumblr e.g. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22Bia+Brazil+Leggings+LE2854+are+sophisticated+and+versitile+sexy+leggings.+They+fit+like+a+glove%2C+shaping+and+enhancing+your+figure.%22&oq=%22Bia+Brazil+Leggings+LE2854+are+sophisticated+and+versitile+sexy+leggings.+They+fit+like+a+glove%2C+shaping+and+enhancing+your+figure.%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.1069j0j9&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8#filter=0&q=%22Bia+Brazil+Leggings+LE2854+are+sophisticated+and+versitile+sexy+leggings.+They+fit+like+a+glove%2C+shaping+and+enhancing+your+figure.%22&safe=off

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                      • DrMcCoy
                        DrMcCoy @JaneCopland last edited by

                        I actually got rid of The articles.asp links because they were not descriptive in the urls.  I chose to create pages as opposed to these article snap-ins.  They are still in my article menu i suppose, but there should be no links or menus items pointing directly to the article.asp(s).  did you see that there were?

                        Yes i will have duplicate content.  My blog www.bestbybrazil.com similar name without "fit" is set to auto post to several sites at once. If my website www.bestfitbybrazil.com is showing some of the same content, then again this must be pulling from the pages that were set up before.  I think Volusion will still show stuff that you have in the background even if you dont have it on your website.  So i will try deleting them i guess.  kind of a pack rat with data.  Always think i might be able to use it again.

                        by the way it looks like MOZ is only showing one other fix for me "Overly Dynamic Url"

                        http://www.bestfitbybrazil.com/NEW-ARRIVALS-s/1931.htm?searching=Y&sort=4&cat=1931&show=300&page=1

                        How do i get rid of this?  Its not even a page.  its a search.  the page is as follows

                        http://www.bestfitbybrazil.com/NEW-ARRIVALS-s/1931.htm.  Everything after is some kind of query.  Do I need to enter the entire link as a dissallow in robot text or contact volusion.  Not sure how much help they would be since MOZ is showing this.

                        Seems to work when i added the disallow in robot.text

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