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    Will a Google manual action affect all new links, too?

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    • barberm
      barberm @Kurt_Steinbrueck last edited by

      Thanks Kurt. You are correct that it wasn't a single press release but 3-4 that all had the same circumstances. In fact, it was the same 2-3 publishers that removed the nofollow tags. The real crummy thing is that those publishers refuse to remove the links so I am having to resort to disavowing them.

      While I have been working through a couple of reconsideration requests, I have built some pretty strong links, but Google seems to have capped me at page 5.

      I actually got a negative response back from Google this morning following my latest reconsideration request. It provided no specifics as it did in the past only that my "Site violates Google's quality guidelines" and references the manual action of "Unnatural links to your site." I'm on round three now. I only have about 300 total inbound links nearly all of which are purely natural or nofollow. What a mess...

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      • Kurt_Steinbrueck
        Kurt_Steinbrueck last edited by

        Bummer about the rejection.  You said that you were having trouble getting the press releases removed (and I assume the links), have you disavowed those links?

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        • barberm
          barberm @Kurt_Steinbrueck last edited by

          I have disavowed the URLs now. The major offender was streetinsider.com. I was able to remove URLs on two other offending publisher sites. Even with the disavow, however, Google didn't remove the manual action. Going to try out removeem.com to see if their tools/service can assist.

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          • Jonathan1979
            Jonathan1979 @Kurt_Steinbrueck last edited by

            Thinking about it Kurt, I have to agree that it is odd that a manual penalty has arisen from this.  Michael, if you would like to share a link to your site, perhaps we can have a look and see if there is something obvious happening.

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            • Kurt_Steinbrueck
              Kurt_Steinbrueck @barberm last edited by

              Sometimes it takes a little while for the disavow tool to remove links.  So, you may need to give it some time if you just did that.  You can always include the disavow request in the documents for your reconsideration request.  Beyond that, I'd take a closer look at your other links to see if there are other links causing an issue.

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              • barberm
                barberm @Jonathan1979 last edited by

                Sure. http://www.urgentcarelocations.com

                I just added the footer links to each state profile this week and see how those could be considered "spammy." They weren't supposed to be implemented with "urgent care" after every one of them. I doubt that is an issue here, however, given that they keep referring to unnatural links.

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                • barberm
                  barberm @Kurt_Steinbrueck last edited by

                  I disavowed in the same day I submitted a reconsideration request, but I did also include it in my documentation. I also included multiple emails to publishers and contact form submissions, as recommended to me.

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                  • Jonathan1979
                    Jonathan1979 @barberm last edited by

                    I have to say on my first quick look I cannot determine why you would have got a manual penalty.  Your link profile does not look spammy, and I wonder if google are specifically targeting sites that use PRweb.

                    With Ahref's I only see 77 dofollow backlinks, and to be honest you could probably be very brutal when it comes to dissavowing these links and starting again.

                    It is strange that the two methods of link building (prweb, and infographics) are two methods that Matt Cutts has recently (in the last few months) said that should be nofollow links.

                    But I cannot give anything definitive based on what I am seeing.

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                    • barberm
                      barberm @Jonathan1979 last edited by

                      I don't know if that makes me feel better or not, but you basically confirmed my thoughts. I may do what you indicate and disavow everything, but I am going try one more time and cut a lot more deeply in actual link removal first.

                      Meanwhile, of course, I am top 5 for all my major terms in Bing and Yahoo. Joy!

                      Thanks

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                      • Jonathan1979
                        Jonathan1979 @barberm last edited by

                        Just looking a bit more, but you could have been flagged for manual checking because from around the beginning of August you had a huge spike of links.  Based on Matt Cutts previous statements about Prweb, they would have seen it as possibly spammy.

                        From August you went up to nearly 125 referring domains, before dropping back down to 36 now.  Prior to PRweb, you were at around 30 referring domains.  I suspect this spike is what caused a manual review.

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                        • barberm
                          barberm @Jonathan1979 last edited by

                          Agreed. But given that I had those removed in quick order and it has been several weeks since they have considerably dropped, any reason why they wouldn't have removed the manual action. I am essentially back to a pre-PRWeb profile.

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                          • Jonathan1979
                            Jonathan1979 @barberm last edited by

                            I suspect you missed some and Google are being well... Google.

                            Ahrefs do a 7 day money back guarantee.  You can even find a 50% off coupon around for the first month.  Some people will even need to check majestic as well.

                            No one site will get all the links unfortunately.

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                            • Kurt_Steinbrueck
                              Kurt_Steinbrueck @Jonathan1979 last edited by

                              Looking in Open Site Explorer, I'm seeing several suspicious links in the report.  These are links from sites that have nothing to do with medicine whatsoever, all with targeted keywords in the anchor text.  When I click to view the page and look for the actual links, I'm not seeing anything.  So, it seems the links are no longer there.

                              If the report from Open Site Explorer is correct, it looks to me like someone was purchasing links and has now removed them.  Did you purchase links?

                              Some of the suspicious links are:

                              • afghan-network.net/Bookshop/persian-books.html
                              • learnscratch.org/resources/why-learn-scratch
                              • www.tiltshift.com/

                              If these links are also in Google's link profile, I could see why the site is penalized.

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                              • Jonathan1979
                                Jonathan1979 @Kurt_Steinbrueck last edited by

                                Agreed.  Ordinarily it wouldn't matter, but once subject to manual review they would be.

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                                • barberm
                                  barberm @Kurt_Steinbrueck last edited by

                                  Interesting. I hadn't seen these links before and have never purchased links. I'll download the list from open site explorer and review and disavow these and similar. Thanks for pointing these out!

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                                  • MarieHaynes
                                    MarieHaynes last edited by

                                    Hi Michael,

                                    "You are correct that it wasn't a single press release but 3-4 that all had the same circumstances."

                                    It's quite unlikely that a few press releases are the sole cause of your penalty, although it is possible.  But I think you may have more links to clean up.  Here are two examples:

                                    http://healthmad.com/health/when-las-vegas-gets-the-best-of-you-6-ways-to-get-back-on-your-feet-in-sin-city/ - self made article

                                    http://www.cannylink.com/healthhospitaldirectories.htm - Low quality directory made just for the purpose of gaining a link

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                                    • JimJ
                                      JimJ @MarieHaynes last edited by

                                      Hi Maria

                                      What do you mean by "Low quality directory made just for the purpose of gaining a link" -- Is there an issue with linking back from directories to your site?

                                      Does this apply to submitting my website to social bookmark websites using a specific anchor text that am optimizing for?

                                      Thanks

                                      James

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