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    • fablau
      fablau last edited by

      I would like to discuss how you think Panda is currently affecting the Google index, and if actually the so much discussed "Panda Update" is still an hot topic in the SEO world.

      We got the last official manual update back on March 14, and at that time Matt Cutts said that Panda would have been integrated in the regular algorithm.

      Fact is: since then I haven't heard about Panda anymore, despite my main e-commerce website as well as many others, is still under a strong Panda penalty. I have worked hard in the past 2 months to cleanup my site, removing thin and duplicate content. But so far I haven't gotten any positive signs from Google.

      Can we say that Panda is now officially integrated in the algorithm? Do we have any signs on that? If so, why we can't see any improvements on our sites, well cleaned-up? Thoughts? Speculations?

      I am eager to know your thoughts about this very sensitive issue that looks like has been forgotten a little bit in the past few weeks.

      Thanks!

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      • sbrault74
        sbrault74 last edited by

        So far, whether it's a Penguin or a Panda penalty, very few are recovering. I don't think Google has the intent of bringing penalized websites back. Only a small minority of websites recovered from these penalties and they were major brands.

        Google wants to teach webmasters a lesson for good: it's Adwords or it's nothing. They want to be as unpredictable as possible so that SEO's stop trying to game their algorithm.

        Like Matt Cutt says, if you've been penalized, it might be easier to get another domain and start all over again.

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        • fablau
          fablau @sbrault74 last edited by

          I am not sure about what you are saying...  do SEO experts agree?

          Also: let's stay focused on Panda because Penguin is a totally different beast...

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          • orion68
            orion68 @sbrault74 last edited by

            Hi sbrault74 - sites do recover from google updates, we've recovered from a manual link spam penalty  in Feb 26 2013 after 5 months. So yes, if you clean up the bad stuff , you will recover.

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            • orion68
              orion68 @sbrault74 last edited by

              one more thing, if you are a brand name and you have sold products under that brand for decades, it is not that simple to start a new brand and re introduce it to the market. Sites do recover. after the manual penalty removed, it is all algo, you need to it the right way.

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              • fablau
                fablau @orion68 last edited by

                Yes I agree with you. Thanks.

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                • fablau
                  fablau last edited by

                  No more thoughts about Panda? Is it really already forgotten by the big SEO community??!!

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