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    • madegood
      madegood last edited by

      Hi,

      My site has been hit with a google penalty of some sort, but it doesn't coincide with a penguin or panda update. I have attached a graph of my visits that demonstrates this.

      I have been working on my SEO since the latter part of last year and have been seeing good results, then all of a sudden my search referrals dropped by 70%.

      Can anyone advise on what it could be?

      Thanks!

      Will

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      • pinnaclecarts
        pinnaclecarts last edited by

        Check your analytics

        • Is it a specific group of keywords?
        • Is it organic traffic at all?
        • Is it traffic to specific page or pages?

        Check your website.

        • Are your link canonicals setup CORRECTLY?
        • Do you have content that is hidden via css/javascript and has no mechanism for unhiding?
        • Have you changed alot of links recently and not performed 301 redirects?
        • Do you have good content, title tags and meta descriptions?
        • Did you remove content

        Check your links

        • Have you been buying links? Check your backlink profile using opensite explorer. Is there any unusual activity here?
        • Is your anchor text varied?

        Have you gotten a notice in Google Webmasters tools?

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        • madegood
          madegood @pinnaclecarts last edited by

          Thanks devknob,

          In answer to your questions;

          • it is across all organic traffic and all keywords to my entire site

          • the content on my site is fairly squeaky clean. I've been using the seomoz pro-tool to keep it in check. I use yoast seo for wordpress to handle my canonicals and employ no dodgy js hiding techniques. I did not remove content.

          • I haven't been buying links. I do have 20,000+ sitewide links coming from bikingbis.com and 12,000 sitewide links coming from citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/. The ones from bikingbis have been removed and have requested removal of the other. Anchor text is varied and is mainly branded keywords

          My question is though, if it's a bad backlink problem, wouldn't it coincide with a panda or penguin update?

          Thanks again

          Will

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          • pinnaclecarts
            pinnaclecarts @madegood last edited by

            You'd think so, but 1) we cant fully trust everything Google says and 2) it could have been something that the algorithm progressively finds and penalizes.

            Its possible that this is not related to links or content.

            Take care of your RCS and make it awesome (real company shtuff)

            About us (under construction content, not good)

            Contact us (weak and thin, include social

            FAQ

            Terms and Conditions (404 error on your site!). I once broke all my footer links on a blog that was getting 5k/day and it slammed me down to 600/day nearly instantaneously. Ive seen other sites with 404 errors survive and even Cutts has downplayed the issue of 404 errors, but I believe any 404 can be indicative of a bad user experience. Scan your site for 404s and fix them all.

            Also, many of your internal links appear to be pointing to 301 redirects. Update your links to point to the status 200 status code (directly to the destination, not through 301)

            In just a quick overview, the above are my notes. This isnt a detailed audit, but you should scan your site for 404 errors and fix them, get your RCS stuff in order and conduct a full site review looking for anything that may be frowned upon by google.

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            • pinnaclecarts
              pinnaclecarts @madegood last edited by

              http://www.webpagetest.org/result/130404_DN_168R/

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              • pinnaclecarts
                pinnaclecarts @madegood last edited by

                My crawl finished. You also have a bunch of status 418 "I'm a teapot" status codes. IDK what this is so I looked it up.

                Per wikipedia:

                418 I'm a teapot (RFC 2324)This code was defined in 1998 as one of the traditional IETF April Fools' jokes, in RFC 2324, Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol, and is not expected to be implemented by actual HTTP servers.

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                • madegood
                  madegood @pinnaclecarts last edited by

                  Wow, thanks for all this. It's late now in the UK so I'll check it out tomorrow.

                  Cheers

                  p.s. Where are my 418's coming from!?!

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                  • pinnaclecarts
                    pinnaclecarts @madegood last edited by

                    private messaged you a google doc of the crawl. Looks like pages that no longer exist, they need 301's.

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                    • madegood
                      madegood @pinnaclecarts last edited by

                      Got your message, thank you. What tool did you completed the crawl with? I'm sort of disappointed this stuff didn't come up in my seomoz weekly scans.

                      A few questions;

                      • How do i know where the 301's are being sent from? So in a this chain of events...

                      Link on a page on my site > routed via a 301 > landing on the desired page

                      ... how do I find the first step in the process? the table you sent me seems to point out only the middle step.

                      • Yes the 'about us'  and 'contact us' pages are weak. I'm building a new version of the site as we speak and will take care of it then. In the mean time, if i no-index them is that as good as getting rid of them?

                      I will now sort the 404's and 418's. Without wanting to sound like a broken record; thanks again! Do let me know if there is anything I can do in return once we've got to the bottom of this.

                      Will

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                      • madegood
                        madegood @madegood last edited by

                        Just checked the 418's and they do seem to be already re-directed with 301's, or are actually in place. What would be the protocol here?

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                        • pinnaclecarts
                          pinnaclecarts @madegood last edited by

                          Did you change them. The scan I just did doesn't show them.... Maybe your host was getting funky or something lol.

                          Get this and click the links on your site. You want to link to status code 200, not 301

                          https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/server-status-code-inspec/bmngiaijlojlejaiijgedgejgcdnjnpk

                          I wouldn't de-index them, I havent found a legitimate reason to de-index anything since 2005, but im a programmer and normally don't need to patch things. You could probably quickly fix them just by adding some content/images.

                          im going to private msg you another spreadsheet. this should show you source+destination of your 404's and 301's.

                          btw, the spider im using is Screaming Frog, its the best I've found.

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                          • madegood
                            madegood @pinnaclecarts last edited by

                            Thanks for the table of links. I'll see to it.

                            I'll work on the code on the new version of the site, seems pointless to do it now.

                            I've installed the plugin. How do I change the status code of a page? I don't really understand how it can be anything but 200, as if i'm viewing it it's obviously there! I thought 301's pushed the user to the 200 version of the page and only existed temporarily in the browser? Obviously I'm wrong, perhaps you could explain it for me?

                            Cheers for the screaming frog tool, looks great.

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                            • pinnaclecarts
                              pinnaclecarts @madegood last edited by

                              Ok so. If a bit of content resides at /bikes/mountain-bikes/ and the menulink I use is /bikes/mountain-bikes/ I'll get a status code 200. There is no added delay, no page rank lost, 200 == OK. The menu link points directly to the destination content.

                              Now lets say you've decided to change the location of that content to /bikes/mountain-bikes/index.html.

                              You do the 301 redirects on from the old url to the new one, THEN you need to update your links to reflect the new location so you're not just pointing at 301 redirects.

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                              • madegood
                                madegood @pinnaclecarts last edited by

                                Oh okay! That makes sense. Found a few issues with my php rules that automatically write links on a few of my contents pages.

                                I've learned some valuable tips here, such a fantastic help. I'm going to get the new site up in a week or two and we'll see if things change.

                                I'll keep you updated!

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                                • pinnaclecarts
                                  pinnaclecarts @madegood last edited by

                                  Great. Just audit it, fix problems, audit again, write more great content and give it time. Even if you fix the problem (assuming it was an onsite problem) it may take some time for Google to show the love agian.

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