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    • kchandler
      kchandler @UnderRugSwept last edited by

      I agree, i demoed all of them and none compared to what SEOMoz has to offer IF they could get back to being reliable.

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      • kchandler
        kchandler @randfish last edited by

        Thank you for your reply and hard work over the holidays, Rand! Hope you still had some time for food and family!

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        • randfish
          randfish @kchandler last edited by

          Ranking data should be nearly done for every account - I believe our engineers said worst case was tomorrow for all accounts to be caught up. Keyword Difficulty is being worked on now.

          We're also meeting this week to devote resources to a 3rd backup system (when the first two backups we've already built simultaneously fail, as happened this go around). Tragically, when you rely on third parties for data (e.g. Google search results) and they change things around constantly without telling you, staying on top of it is incredibly hard.

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          • kchandler
            kchandler @kchandler last edited by

            Hey Rand, just checking in. It looks like as of yesterday morning (11/29) all of my new ranking data has finally populated!! Still seems like the keyword difficulty tool isn't responding? Any word on the status?

            Thank you in advance - Kyle

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            • randfish
              randfish @kchandler last edited by

              Weird. KW Difficulty should be functioning as of yesterday afternoon. Can you try again and if you encounter an issue, send it to help@seomoz.org with your account info?

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              • kchandler
                kchandler @kchandler last edited by

                Rand just ran a few tests and they seem to be working! Thank you for continuing to follow up on the progress!

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                • kchandler
                  kchandler @kchandler last edited by

                  Rand It looks like across all of my accounts since you guys made your updates that my ranking results have fluctuated quite a bit. Not to the point that i would think that i am being penalized or an algorithm update but to the point that they now match other rank tracking software that i was hesitant to move toward?

                  So my question is, did you guys change how you get ranking results? Is it now more accurate than your old model (taking the top 10 and top 50, combine them, then de-duping the results)? This would be something very important to let your customer base know since it would effect how we explain the changes to superiors or clients.

                  Thank you in advance - Kyle

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                  • randfish
                    randfish @kchandler last edited by

                    Hi Kyle - yes, we had to change to individually fetching the top 10, then 11-20, then 21-30, etc. This could have changed ranking positions in the 11+ range more significantly, though we haven't seen widespread reports of this. I would note that results past 20 are usually far more volatile than those on the first page.

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                    • kchandler
                      kchandler @kchandler last edited by

                      Rand your response is exactly what i am seeing across all of my campaigns in SEOmoz. #1 listings maintained, listings in the top 5 grew a bit, listings in the top 10 maintained, but anything beyond that REALLY dropped.

                      Would someone on your team be able to release a post explaining this so we can share it with our customers? It is really hard to explain this rather complex situation.

                      Thank you in advance!

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                      • randfish
                        randfish @kchandler last edited by

                        I'll ask Dr. Pete to put it on his calendar to show the distribution of flux in further-back results. I suspect it may be a while, though, as he has a lot of other stuff on his plate already!

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                        • kchandler
                          kchandler @kchandler last edited by

                          Hey Rand - any chance you guys are still going to note the changes that happened?

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                          • randfish
                            randfish @kchandler last edited by

                            It's on the to-do list, but there's a lot of stuff ahead of it, so it might be a little while.

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