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    Raven Tools: Any Comparable Alternatives?

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    • David_ODonnell
      David_ODonnell last edited by

      Hey Guys,

      Can anyone recommend a Raven Tools alternative?

      Specifically looking for an all-in-one solution (Adwords, Analytics, Social) with white label reporting and client access - you know, what Raven Tools offered before losing Adwords API access.

      Cheers!

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      • SebastianCowie
        SebastianCowie last edited by

        I believe AnalyticsSeo offers something similar, not too sure if they cover Social though.

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        • matbennett
          matbennett last edited by

          Looking at the response that Rand posted in this thread, it sounds like a lot of the tool vendors are going to be having problems with Adwords API data. Where as Ravens email shot made it sound specific to them, it sounds like it will impact seomoz as well, which presumably means most/all providers.

          Might be worth waiting for the dust to settle a bit before investing in new toolsets.  However no harm in asking other providers if/how they might be affected.

          I can't think of another suite that does the organics/paid/social combination as well as Raven though.

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          • David_ODonnell
            David_ODonnell @matbennett last edited by

            Thanks Mat, just caught wind of this, this morning with SEOmoz's email out about it. Definitely agree with waiting for the dust to settle on this one.

            Cheers.

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            • David_ODonnell
              David_ODonnell @SebastianCowie last edited by

              Thanks, from my brief review they didn't seem to have adwords integration or client access.

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              • MrFrisbee
                MrFrisbee last edited by

                I believe that SEOanalytics use SEMRush data which must at least partially come from Google.  Who knows what where when how who why etc.

                Seems some clever thinking is required by the SEO bods to get some sort of manual upload perhaps from each account holder.

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                • matbennett
                  matbennett last edited by

                  Hi David,

                  Not sure if you spotted it, but adwords returned to Raventools today.

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                  • MrFrisbee
                    MrFrisbee @matbennett last edited by

                    But it seems they only have it back until late December AND Google have changed it so the results are only for Exact match - not broad or phrase (see below).  This must make the data almost useless or at least more complex as you now need to include many more variants to get an idea of the popularity of a phrase.  Also, the data is incomparable with historic data.

                    "The new AdWords API provides volume data for exact keywords only, not broad or phrase keywords. It’s an AdWords API change across the board. It applies to any developer, company or tool provider who uses the AdWords API and has updated to the latest version. This issue isn’t related to the API access conversation Raven has been having with the AdWords team."

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                    • matbennett
                      matbennett @MrFrisbee last edited by

                      I hadn't looked at it yet.  That does suck.

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                      • David_ODonnell
                        David_ODonnell @matbennett last edited by

                        Interesting, thanks for following up. Just found this blog post after seeing your comment:

                        http://raventools.com/blog/raven-restores-google-adwords-management-reporting/

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                        • David_ODonnell
                          David_ODonnell @MrFrisbee last edited by

                          I am concerned that access has only been granted throughout December, I hesitate that if it is taken away again we're back at square one. We're continuing to work on something in-house at the moment.

                          I'm also curios what effect the exact match data has on the Adwords reports, I'll have to test this myself. I can't imagine that if it only included exact match data in those reports, that it would be very useful at all.

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                          • David_ODonnell
                            David_ODonnell @MrFrisbee last edited by

                            Quick update, the Adwords reports (Ads > Adwords etc) seem to be accurate, exact match api does not seem to affect them, so that is a positive.

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