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    • applesofgold
      applesofgold last edited by

      Does PR still work?

      I have sites that have PR3 and get almost no traffic and sites that are PR1 and get thousands of uniques per month.

      My PR on my main sites haven't moved for about 7 years, even though we've grown significantly.

      I know lots of you are going to jump in with get the MOZ toolbar, which I already have done, and I agree, it's great ...

      But can anyone tell me about what's going on with Google PR?

      Is it still active? Or has Google abandoned? I noticed that the Google toolbar is not even available for Google Chrome. That should say something ...

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      • PathMarketing
        PathMarketing last edited by

        I'm interested in hearing the latest word on that... I don't believe it's "dead" as in "no longer updated, no longer based in anything meaningful" but it seems like many SEO's believe that its not relevant - but why that is, I'm not sure so I'm wondering if someone can give us the quick rundown.

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        • charles1
          charles1 last edited by

          I've seen changes within the last  6 months to websites PR so I believe it's not dead. It gets updated randomly Google doesn't update it publicly very often because they don't want SEO people to focus on this number.

          If you want more info on PR what this video...http://www.seomoz.org/blog/what-is-googles-pagerank-good-for-whiteboard-friday

          Here's a quote from the Video explaining PR:

          "PageRank is useful as a raw indication of link popularity. Meaning that, PageRank doesn't take into account anchor text. It doesn't take into account whether the sites are related to each other. It doesn't take into account whether some of the sites maybe have been flagged for spam. It doesn't take into account whether the page is relevant to the actual search query"

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          • DanHill
            DanHill last edited by

            It's pretty much a useless metric these days - and remember that there might be two seperate 'Page Ranks' - the one on the toolbar and the internal one that Google has in it's vault 😉

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            • vinodchaudhary
              vinodchaudhary last edited by

              PageRank don't seems to be dead. PageRank is kind of reputation of a page in Google's eye which essentially don't mean that highest PR sites ranks in top positions of SERPs. Ranks in SERPs are searched query specific while PageRank seems more generic weight of page in google's eye.

              It is assumed (as well as said by google) that PageRank is only based on backlinks. But I have got PR3 and even PR4 for websites which don't have any link, but have good number of pages having quality content.

              In my opinion, PageRank is overall weight of page in Google's eye. And more importantly... two pages having same PR does not mean their value is same of Google. I think internally Google score webpages from 1 to 1,000.000 (or something big), and show the rounded figure in form of PR1 to PR10.

              PageRank is the quickest way to guess the worth of any page.

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              • jeffreytrull1
                jeffreytrull1 last edited by

                I agree with others. It's not dead (I know there's been recent updates), but it's not necessarily an important factor. It's simply an indicator that Google releases.

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                • Dr-Pete
                  Dr-Pete last edited by

                  People polarize quickly on this one, but I think Charles' middle ground is probably closest to the truth - PR is still a part of the algorithm and is a raw measure of link popularity. The trick is that:

                  • It's just one ranking factor of 100s
                  • Toolbar PR approximates Google's internal PR
                  • Toolbar PR could be 1-3+ months out of date

                  Keep in mind that TBPR is probably on a logarithmic scale, so the distance between low TBPR's is much less than the distance between high TBPRs. In other words, the difference in "real" PR between TBPR 1 and 2 is MUCH smaller than the difference between 6 and 7.

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                  • Dr-Pete
                    Dr-Pete @DanHill last edited by

                    While we don't know the exact math, I think the existence of two PR measures (internal and Toolbar) is pretty much established fact at this point. TBPR is a simplification of a much more continuous PR scale and is almost definitely non-linear. The difference between TBPR 6 vs. 7 is MUCH greater than the difference between TBPR 1 vs. 2, for example.

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