Lost 50% google traffic in one day - panic?
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I believe you are right, i think i have a site that is been hit, yet I cant see what couild be wrong.
Maybe i spoke too soon
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HI Rand, I understand where you are coming from as SEOmoz is a white hat community. However, when I started my business and did not know anything about SEO, I used these spam techniques for the simple reason I didnt know any better and thought that was SEO. Does this make me bad? I dont think it does. Since then, 5 years ago I have come a long way in SEO and consider myself a white hat marketer.
I wouldn't want to put my business at risk with dodgy SEO techniques. However, I did when I was clueless. Now I want to fix it. I'm sure many webmasters on this forum are on the same boat as me.
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Hi girls & boys,
today, I've made some on page analysis. I've found out that Google is delivering the "wrong" page from our site at several keywords.
I think this is a very strong signal that onpage optimization is penalized in some way.
But have a look at my new blog post:
Penguin ranking analysis - downgraded due to on page over optimization
Best wishes,
Georg. -
good observation. let us know how you get on. Thanks
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Good start at SEO Stories, good place for many affected sites... We have seen all drops everywhere... any front runners ?
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I'm an SEO and during our monthly reporting it became very clear that we were effected by Penguin. I did a search on two of our larger clients for 4/23 through 4/27 and it was like a spiral into h@#$&. We don't believe it was from on-page SEO and we are HUGE white hat proponents, but it would appear that our meta tags may be the culprit.
We are being proactive with our clients and telling them about the update and that they are going to notice alot of downward rankings. In the meantime, a lot of sleepless nights rewriting code and content. Ahh, the joy of being an SEO.
Does anyone know if we need to be proactive in resubmitting the sites in Webmaster Tools, or on a waiting game to see if the changes have been picked up in a positive way?
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I took "simply falling down in the SERPs" to mean that it's preferable to an actual penalty. We are all rising or falling in the SERPs for every keyword every day according to what changes happen in and around our sites and in and around other people's sites.
Google is trying to use a bunch of signals to imply authority and quality and along the way they are bound to judge some well intentioned sites wrongly. Someone I know has a site full of original and useful content. But he also has a whole bunch of duplicate content pages lying around which he forgot about from months ago, and a long list of duplicated archive pages due to poor use of tags in WordPress. He's placed a large ad above the fold on every page and has a high code to content ratio on the page. He has poor but not non-existent social interaction on his site and his site as a home-made feel to it - it also looks dis-organised - which I tend to think prevents people from ever engaging with his stuff as they can't see the article for all the surrounding clutter. He uses GA so G knows about his bounce rate too. You can't fault him on his content, but in the past when he didn't know better he did some fake link building but he doesn't do it any more.
He lost 75% of his traffic on 24th April. At least if this a result of "simply falling down in the SERPs", he can simply climb back up with a few changes. Except for the bad links.
I'm not sure what anyone can do about those, but then I am (reliably) told Penguin had nothing to do with inbound links.
Liz
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Here is the complete analysis why we have lost our rankings: http://www.seo-stories.com/post/22524770229/how-to-get-back-the-rankings-after-the-penguin-update
Furthermore I've described all our actions so far to regain our rankings after the penguin ate the half of our fish.
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"...Internal anchor text (linking within your site) is rarely penalized."
I agree that it's rarely penalized, but based on some things I'm seeing, I think a site with exceptionally high percentages of exact match internal anchor text links to category pages can (perhaps unintentionally) be caught in the Penguin net. Not conclusive just yet, but it really looks like this is the case with a site I'm working on.
The term "collateral damage" comes to mind.
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Hi Josh,
Our site was also hit. Will you take a look at our site: www. butterflycraze.com
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Good additional info on Penguin from Danny Sullivan today:
http://searchengineland.com/google-talks-penguin-update-recover-negative-seo-120463
Looks like it is on an "offline" data update, like Panda. So, recovery could be delayed in many cases.
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Hi Peter,
thanks for the link!
Well, that are really bad news
Quote:
- Wait for news of a future Penguin Update and see if you recover after it happens
- If it doesn’t, try further cleaning or consider starting over with a fresh site
We can't change the domain - that is our brand...
Do you know the cycle of the panda updates? What do you think, when will be the next penguin update?
The good news this week: Some of our rankings are coming back slowly.
Best wishes,
Georg.
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Hi Georg, I read through these posts and felt as though our issues are almost identical. I got hit a month or two ago and wasn't sure why. We have been in business for years and never had an issue (of course our rankings have moved up and down over the years). We lost (like no where to be found) at least two huge keywords on our home page and about 25% of our overall business. I have 5 people and already had to lay off one. The scary part is we have no idea why. While I am sure we are doing some things wrong, we don't know what. I have had a bunch of great suggestions and have been addressing them (but everyone has a different thought as to what is causing it). Still no luck with getting the keywords back. I have reduced keywords, reduce crawl errors, changed content, etc, etc.
I will keep watching this thread in the hope that I learn something as panic is an understatement at this point!
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+1 on the same thing happened to a few sites we work on. We have now made all the changes we can to on-page and technical and will let that stew for a few weeks before we consider anything else. Some traffic has returned but there is a long way to go.
In the mean time spending non-ROI money on PPC. Ugh
Would sure be nice if the webmaster tool recommendations would keep sync with Algorithmic changes so you could properly react to all the silly black and white creatures.
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Agreed. Except I refuse to spend more on Google PPC - I went the other way and reduced spend. If they penalize us for no reason the last thing I want to do is give them money! I could understand if we intentionally did something wrong, but that fact that a dozen top webmasters have all given different advice and can't point to anything concreate leads me to believe that everyone is to some extent guessing (even though some thoughts were excellent and everyone was well intentioned).
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That's nonsense. Talk to Google about what? The automatic penalty that was applied? That apparently they cannot do anything about.
It's nice that you presume those that have been hit, have done something wrong. It seems common among those who have managed to dodge Panda, to presume they safe and that the rest of the world has done something to deserve their fate.
In my niche, it's image heavy and low on textual content. This is by nature and not due to any wrong doing. My user metrics are amazing and yet my website was hit by Panda recently.
I don't want to come across as being harsh, but I do feel your response was a little presumptuous and insensitive.
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