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    • clayts
      clayts last edited by

      Are there companies out there that accept payment on the results they get for organic search listings? I have a site that I want to be number 1 for two terms on Google UK and .com and I while I dont think it will take much effort I would like to find a decent SEO company or person that can do this and be paid for the result.

      What do people think?

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      • Zkwarta
        Zkwarta last edited by

        Any reputable SEO company wouldn't do this. Becoming #1 takes time and effort...if it doesn't take much effort from your perspective why not just do it yourself?

        Someone who might take this challenge up will most likely linkspam your site all over the place and possibly get you dinged or removed in a few short months from a SE's index.

        There is no such thing as a free lunch.

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        • RyanKent
          RyanKent last edited by

          No one can guarantee a number one ranking. Some companies offer various "guarantees" but they often are vague in some areas or they offer the company an opportunity to improve rankings and if they fail the client receives their money back.

          Here's the challenge for you. Many good SEOs have a full client load. They have an established history and can charge based on their time. There is no need to engage is any arrangements where profits are split or other types of pay-for-results type of contracts.

          If you wish to pay for a ranking, then the pay would be substantially higher then normal SEO rates. The normal format of such an arrangement would be you pay the agreed upon rate for the work, then offer a bonus for achieving the #1 ranking.

          With the above understood, it is rarely a good deal for the client to engage is such arrangements. Your interest is PROFIT, or at the very least conversions, not ranking. Some issues which may occur: you rank #1 for a low traffic keyword, you rank well for a keyword which does not convert well, your listing is not optimized for click through rate, etc.

          SEO is a comprehensive process which involves all aspects of your site and business. The goal of SEO is likely to increase your company's profitability. That should be the focus of a good SEO campaign. If you are targeting specific metrics like ranking, PR, CTR, conversion rate, traffic, etc. you are likely missing out on major factors which influence your profitability.

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          • john4math
            john4math last edited by

            Have you considered online advertising?  That can get your ad to appear above organic search listings.  There's no replacement for good old fashioned link building and quality content, but that's one way you can get your name out there quickly and easily.  It could turn out to be less expensive than the time and money you'd spend find and working with an SEO company (it would depend on the queries you're targeting).

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            • EGOL
              EGOL last edited by

              I dont think it will take much effort

              🙂

              I think that all of the time and then I find out that those guys are really smart and very hard to beat.

              Probably RyanKent is the SEO for the guys I am trying to beat... I think it would be pretty expensive to beat him, might take a very long time, and a lot of work and maybe impossible.

              Now imagine that you are talking about the same keywords that RyanKent and I are fighting over.  Do you think it will be cheap to beat both of us working really hard to beat each other?

              This is why smart SEOs don't work for somebody who says... "I'll pay when you get me #1".

              ================================

              Now imagine second situation... You say "I'll pay when you get me #1" and I take the job and hit the site with a big ton of links and you pay me... then I yank the links.  🙂

              This is why smart website owners should not say... "I'll pay when you get me #1"

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